positivebunny has put up on youTube “The secret KGB UFO files”….what do you think?
Is it credible! … (it comes in 9 parts)
Part 1 of 9
Part 2 of 9
Part 3 0f 9
Part 4 of 9
Part 5 of 9
Part 6 of 9
Part 7 of 9
Part 8 of 9
Part 9 of 9
Posted by dandare on April 11, 2008
positivebunny has put up on youTube “The secret KGB UFO files”….what do you think?
Is it credible! … (it comes in 9 parts)
Part 1 of 9
Part 2 of 9
Part 3 0f 9
Part 4 of 9
Part 5 of 9
Part 6 of 9
Part 7 of 9
Part 8 of 9
Part 9 of 9
Posted by dandare on April 10, 2008
I am starting to get annoyed at the way this whole affair is being treated; it is damaging ufology big time, and yes i do care about it.
SO, i hear you cry….. where is the evidence to back up your claim, that this is disinformation, and a hoax….
I begin with the brilliant post by http://www.ufo-blog.com/2007drones/drone_timeline.htm many great points here for you to consider……they are excellent and well written :)
The DRT (Drone Research Team), has ”California drone UFO Investigation FAQ“. Now it starts off with
This document explains away the many claims of hoax against the drone case. Generally, hoax claimers are using fact-free opinions, and or ignorance of photography etc. Hundreds of people have devoted thousands of hours to the answers found in here
So, straight from the start, it lays out its intentions for all to see….. I’ll fill in the gaps that seem to elude them shall i.
Before i do go on, some might say that i am doing the reverse, to what they are doing in their FAQ’s, ie from a skeptic/hoaxers point of view…. in some ways i am, but i am mainly doing this as a response to what has been written, by the supposed DRT, (who are from the Open Minds forum). They are meant to write a well balanced report (which we have not seen yet, but if the FAQ’s are anything to go on, i will not be holding my breath)….. how can they, when their clear intent is to only have a one sided argument. Do not forget, the investigators evidence, will probably be ‘used’ in some way to promote their theory (especially when it seemed the “drone” effect was quietly dieing a death).
So sorry, back to filling in the gaps for them…. (although i see they have recently attempted to put in a small pro-hoaxer argument at the end…mmm, but its still written in a style thats not very convincing). Below are just some of the first thoughts that pop into my head.
I have to dwell on the main figure of all this… and i am afraid this is Linda Moulton Howe….
Again, at the ufo-blog article above, it makes excellent points that seriously question Linda’s intentions i’m afraid… i will not cover the same points, as it has already been covered well, especially that both DRT and Linda both know each other (the DRT numbers 6 members, i believe).
Anyway, it seems Linda tends to “sensationalize” stories for her own benefit, rather than using her position as once-respected reporter, to make things better.
I’m not saying she’s a fraud, I’m just saying that her days of being a respected reporter of important issues are over, and she is unfortunately doing more harm than good with the subjects she chooses to champion. That is also unfortunate for the rest of us.
However, some have mentioned that LMH, Bill Birnes, George Noory (+others)… see a website subscription, TV/magazine role, in keeping this all in the eye of the paying public. I will leave this up to you, what that role could be?
I might go into more details on the LMH effect some other time, but she, for whatever reason, seems to be determined not to question the sightings in a proper manner, keep hold of all the evidence, so we cannot analyse it properly, and persist in saying more witnesses are coming forward, and keeping a monopoly on these witnesses also….
Many believers in the photos and Isaac documents, claim that there is no proof that these are hoaxes… of course it depends where you look….. MUFON at http://www.hyper.net/ufo/vs/m05-001.html claims that these are hoaxes.
But here is the crux of the matter, i say it again, for those not wishing to listen…… if we are not given all the evidence… ie the photos in Hi-res, so we can look in proper detail, then how are we going to properly analyse the source…… reduced images are not sufficient to be 100% sure of anything….MUFON had their doubts and could see problems with the photos, and called it a hoax, due to other problems: they cannot be dismissed…. if nothing else alarm bells should be ringing. So basically, what i am saying is, we have no witnesses who are willing to come forward, to question, and no original photos… so what are we left with… theories? where are the facts.. one would be nice.
I also had a little search for XPArc, and came up with Xerox Palo Alto Research Center…. also i found http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Xerox+parc+map+viewer , and http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Palo+Alto+Research+Center . in the second link, have a look at the history and accomplishments…. However, this could have got the brain cells ticking don’t you think?
If anyone wishes me to “drone” on, with some more evidence/controversy and so on, then i can do so in another post…however, i feel i have rumbled on for longer than i had intended….
I would just like to end here with a quote taken from http://www.uk-ufo.org/condign/casehoax.htm (the website of Flying Saucery, by Dr David Clarke, Andy Roberts, Joe McGonagle and Gary Anthony) which was written a while ago, but is very apt here….
Hoaxes are rarely just standard UFO reports. They are invariably photographic or document based. This makes them an easily displayable, marketable media commodity. Whereas a single witness sighting of a brightly lit UFO may only get, at best, a few column inches in a newspaper, a UFO hoax photograph, such as that created by Gordon Faulkner during the 1965 Warminster flap, will receive national media coverage. In turn this sort of exposure can add a stamp of validity (however specious) on to a hitherto disparate collection of UFO reports, turning local a flap into a national phenomenon. And so the cycle continues.
(extract from Article)….
Posted by dandare on April 6, 2008
Welcome to UFO Update……
First off we have “unidentified object flies Canterbury skies“ (posted 3rd april, 2008 by stuff.co.nz ). It mentions “Teenager Andrew Wilkinson captured an apparently fiery object in the Canterbury sky on his digital camera last night” (extract from article).
Next we have “UFO sighting ‘no hoax’, experts say“ (posted by southtownstar.com; on the 3rd april, 2008 )
”The wing lights of a commercial airliner, flares tied to balloons, mistaken planets and even mass hallucination have been suggested as possible explanations for the sightings of three unidentified red lights that passed over the skies of Tinley Park in a rough V formation on the nights of Aug 21 and Oct 31 in 2004″ (extract from article).
ufocon.blogspot.com talks about “The UFO indifference” (posted 29th march, 2008 ) in which it starts
“One factor that eliminates the Jacques Vallee and Mac Tonnies hypotheses that there might be co-inhabitants of the Earth who live in an isolated plane of existence or underwater as a full-borne civilization that interacts with human beings via UFOs, paranormal manifestations, et cetera is the non-interference in Earth affairs” (extract from article).
At candgnews.com “The stars come out to Southfield planetarium” (posted 2nd april, 2008 )
“The possibility of extra-terrestrial life will be examined in the last of eight unique shows in the spring season at the planetarium, which begins on April 18, at 7 p.m. The Southfield Vollbrecht Planetarium is located at 19100 Filmore, just off of Evergreen Road between 10 Mile and I-696 in Southfield” (extract from article).
For links to the Roswell UFO festival planned for july 2008 please see here (just become available, with schedule).
On richardlalancette.blogspot.com “Sightings and earthquakes” (posted 2nd april, 2008 ) has something i touched on before, with the recent UK earthquake….
“Several sightings of lights appearing in the sky were reported in the days leading up to the quake, which had its epicentre near Market Rasen when it struck early on February 27.
And some believe that these could be “earthquake lights” – caused by changes in the electrical properties of the ground before a quake occurs.
There have been many similar reports of “earthquake lights” throughout history” (extract from article).
stephendsullivan has “UFO Hunters – Hist. – Vortexes” (posted 2nd april, 2008 ) … he states at the end
“UFO Hunters is a show for true believers only; anyone looking for actual science or serious investigation should look elsewhere” (extract from article). I’m afraid i will have to agree with him on this.
At ufodigest.com “Further observations on the Chicago O’Hare Airport UFO Report” (posted 2nd april, 2008 ). It starts off with
“I’m forwarding this post to you since it evidently didn’t make it into UFO Updates. I also sent it to Mr. Hilkevitch at the Chicago Tribune.
Perhaps you can run with the FAA part, or know someone who can.
If the statements posted by the reader are true, there’s a goldmine of information lying underneath” (extract from article).
At seti.com “Contact: would we know if it happened?” (posted 4th april, 2008 ) it opens with “Forgive my cynicism, but I have to ask: If we received an irrefutable ET signal, would the public ever know?” (extract from article).
ufo media.blogspot.com has “The other Skinwalker Ranch: contact” (posted 4th april, 2008 )…worth a read; the site is also recommended.
Lastly….” Increased sightings spark UFO and Paranormal Conference in Kansas City“ (posted 5th april, 2008 – by prweb.com ).
“The first annual Mysteries of the Universe Conference is scheduled for June 7 in Kansas City, Missouri at the Intrigue Park Place Hotel from 8:30 am to 9:30 pm. The conference is the first of its type to be held in the area, and was sparked by the recent flurry of UFO activity in the U.S. and increased reports of paranormal activity in Kansas City” (extract from article).
Posted by dandare on April 5, 2008
In part 2, i will try and discuss the drone sightings in much more detail…..(it looks like this will now be part 2 of 4…explained near end of post ).
The drone photos and documents, have been creating alot more debate recently, mainly due to the hiring of 2 detectives .. http://www.tkdavisinvestigations.com/_california_drone_investigation . What i am not sure about, however, is why they are just looking for the location of these photos…should they not be following up on Internet information, and so on and cover all angles (maybe they are, but i am not aware of it).
fox news video below (with the 2 detectives)
Some of the immediate questions that spring to mind are:
I would just like to add, what was first mentioned in (part 1)… which raises serious questions for points 1+2 above……
“At this point, i will add the link from MUFON, as it argues this is a fake http://www.hyper.net/ufo/vs/m05-001.html with an interesting argument; also analysis’s check the photos supplied. These were steve Neil (computer generated images for history channel) and Marc D’Antonio (owns and operates FX models)….both believe in ufos/extraterrestrials being real.
Of particular note in this, is the following:
“In one of the images, you can see that the faker used, something called “radiosity” to render the images. The technique allows for more realistic images and makes things look very good, as if lit by the sun in this case. Well, in ONE of the radiosity images supposedly looking up at the ‘fake ship’ from directly below it is clear that the faker didn’t take care in setting his settings for the renderer and you can see classic “radiosity render artifacts” in the dark shadow areas of the CG craft. They show up as mottling in the shadows instead of smooth transitions.
It is what happens when you want the rendering to be finished quickly. If radiosity settings were used to make the image look absolutely real, each image could take tens of hours to render perhaps.In another shot where the craft ought to have been some distance away, it is sharp and clear as if there is suddenly no
atmospheric haze.Finally, in one image the faker composited the craft to appear behind tree branches. This is easy to perform.
The faker used something called an Alpha map which affords you JUST this capability.Sooner or later, I will bet that a ‘video’ will emerge, and the faker is no doubt working on it but doesn’t like the results I guarantee because the radiosity renders take a long time to render per frame and in motion, he has to get all his Photoshop type filtering done on the fly within his rendering software and it isn’t as easy.When I saw this I winced at how obvious the fakery is and how utterly uneducated the coast to coast people are for falling for it.
The faker, named ‘Chad’ is a complete and total fabricator.”I have still sent a request to the above witness Email address wishing a interview, following Mufon investigative proceedures.I plan to play this interview ‘dumb smart’ (if it ever occurs- but hope so) wishing to glean any further information if possible and post it here. It maybe possible these images submitted were hoaxed by someone else, rather than by the
witnesses themselves (names stated above).I suspect the Coast to Coast web site appearance was a trial run before posting here in the Mufon CMS. The attached images files from Coast to Coast read in the image file text’ the name ‘McKinley’. The same witness name above in the witness report.I seriously doubt the ‘Coast to Coast’ people may even know about this authenticity issue.
As of May 16, 2007, I have not recieved any reply from these witnesses.Clearly a ‘HOAX’. Case completed, but will reopen should I recieve get a reply from the witness. (hopefully).
Very Respectfully, Steve Reichmuth”
Obviously, no real video were forthcoming, and the e-mail was never replied too…. (for an idea of radiosity see http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/radiosity/radiosity.htm , and also here).
Also, there has been a comparison made, with the Chad photos, to an incident in Devon (england) in 1967 (26th october, in South Devon)….did ‘Chad’ get some of his ideas from this?….. see below for video.
For a report on the incident see http://www.ufologie.net/htm/dorset67.htm and http://www.project1947.com/shg/hennessey/ufoinv4-4.htm (with diagrams)…thanks to http://www.hyper.net/ufo.html for making this information aware to me, on the website.
So there is straight away, a question as to the validity of the photos as being real… however we need more debate than this…..
On above top secret there is a mention that:
“Within the 3D modeling software, you can actually take real life pictures and include them into the render. So If I made a 3D model of a jet, I could easily take a real picture of an airport, and place the jet at the right angle and position, and then, I can even move the lighting node placed in the 3D scene to match the picture, and when I render it, it will look almost realistic.
You can play with the render until you get it just right. So trying to debunk these drone pictures because of “lighting” can be difficult, because all the 3D artist has to do is position the light node anywhere he believes the background images light source is. Then they can simply change the settings of that light node, like brightness and contrast and color. So the object will have all the shading in the right places” (extract from above top secret forum…unfortunately lost the link to the exact post). An interesting point…..
We will come back to this later on, but moving on to point 2
Was this A CGI effects photograph
What is CGI : (Computer Generated Imagery)….as you can see from Reference.com it covers many areas (also here for basics)….. in the computer software department, for example there is lightwave 3D maya , maxwell render software.
….. there were some who believed that Kris Avery, a highly talented CG/3D expert, and who created the drone video, might have been involved in the photos…. but he heavily denies this.
His site is at http://www.kaptive.co.uk/index.cfm I will add a range of videos at the end of this post……. At http://io9.com/374831/cgi-artist-did-not-create-ufo-pics-++-who-did
the blogger e-mailed Kris, who confirmed that he did this to prove that it could be done, but was not the maker of the initial photos. At Open Minds Forum it mentions:
“In my exchange of emails with Kris, Kris believes that some (at least… if not all) of the drone photos are CGI and explained to me why he thinks so. If Kris is the creator of the drones (which he has already denied), I am not sure why he would fight so hard to say they are fake (which would expose himself)… if he was the one behind the hoax. Just my thoughts.
There is no doubt that Kris is a very talented artist, and if anyone has the knowledge on how do this, he would be one of those people. Also, he is very aware of the limitations in the current CGI software. Exposing those limitations exposes photos that are CGI” (extract from post in forum).
At ufocasebook, they take a look at the photos and take another viewpoint:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/unmannedprobeanalysis.html (done by james vinyard and Frank Valentyn).
At http://www.theparanormalreport.com/home.html in “debunking the drones” it mentions that:
“We live in the post-Photoshop world, which has proven painful for the UFO field. Anyone can hoax a UFO photograph with knowledge of Photoshop, basic camera work and editing, or CGI movie making abilities. It is imperative in light of these techniques to keep an objective viewpoint when analyzing photographs and video footage of UFO’s. At the Paranormal report, we certainly believe that some UFO’s appear to represent a superior intelligence of unknown, perhaps extraterrestrial origin, but this does not seem to be the case with the drone UFO’s” (extract from article). It also question the pixel density of the UFO compared to the rest of the picture, among other things.
At this point, i will add http://ovnis-usa.com/drone_investigation_FAQ.pdf It is basically saying ,there is no proper proof to say that it is a hoax….. it also has a go at Above top secret for those that say it is for ‘real’ (ie posters back stab,ect) .. However, it can also be said that the other end of the spectrum can be said for Open Minds forum, that seems to have a negative response from those who believe it to be a hoax (although both moderators attempt to keep everything fair, but this can be an almost impossible task).
Point 3…. (locations debate)….
From the Open minds forum, there is a debate about where certain drone photos were taken from….
see stephen\’s location photographs for an indepth disscusion on this…..this is in reference to stephen’s photos taken on the 5th june 2007: it is stated as being from the Big Basin, but it is argued that it comes from Saratoga; there are alot of photos, maps and so on to support this theory.
Point 4 … was it an ARG viral campaign? To start with ARG=Alternative Reality Game; see http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Alternate_reality_game for a definition of this. In fact, The Blair witch project (1999) was similar to ARG, but started out as almost an urban legend and ultimately a hoax, which became a movie (at the time no ARG existed of course); for viral marketing please also see http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Viral_marketing .
I mention this because quite a few believed (including myself) that it was a viral campaign… it still could be, that ultimately went wrong, or not, as the case may be. I point you to 2 links these being http://www.perplexorum.com/showthread.php?t=1725 (read both pages) and http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=11299627&postRepeater1-p=3 for a heated debate on this.
Also please see http://hushedcasket.com/node/2060 for why “society of the ancients” is possibly significant.
Many have tried to translate the writing on the photographs…. many to begin with thought it might be japanese, but that proved wrong; others believe that It’s no language…
It’s just fancy standard english font put into italics and made to look like an otherworldy language. You can read “Ay07+” and “+cxa+X+” on the wing. However, at the open minds forumthey have devised this…for the symbols
I have decided that as this has become a rather long post, i will do 2 more posts to help with the overall drone EFFECT (as it were). The next post will be solely links to relevant forum posts/articles/ and videos to the drones. The second post will be on the document itself……and an overall conclusion.
I am not totally happy with this post, and might redo in more detail, certain parts of it….. unfortunately i am short on time and wish to get something out…. so hope this will be good enough for now.
Posted by dandare on April 2, 2008
Please check back from time to time, as this will be updated regularly…
If you see something that i have missed, please contact me (thanks).
I have also put the posts, in date order this time, as last month proved to be a bit confusing…(hence the long lists of dates at the start of every month). I will try and put a conclusion to the sightings at the end of each month as well ……
However, as i have said before, i am not sure what value they are to any UFO research.
Many of the sightings are sensationalised, with usually alot of information missing. Please keep this in mind as you view these postings from the local and national press.
I’m afraid many also fail to follow up on their initial leads, and many reports just remain forgotten.
The sun gets in early with “Did google fool you?” (original article i was unable to find)… of course an april fool joke… but to be honest its the same as all their articles; virtually no data, no facts, ect… so normal fair there then. Also “Were you an april fool“ …..mmm.
ufodigest.com has an article entitled “Project Signal found“; it mentions
“Project SIGNAL FOUND is collaboration between Philip Mantle and the former Director of Investigations for the British UFO Research Association, and Nick Pope, the man who investigated UFOs for the British Ministry of Defence. This long-term study project looks entirely at UFO landing cases in the UK & Ireland. The idea behind it is simple. Most UFO researchers argue that the vast majority of UFO sightings can be explained in conventional terms. It is the contention of this project that UFO landings should be more difficult to misidentify than ‘ordinary’ UFO sightings” (extract from article).
The sun “UFOs: Is the truth out there?”…. notice to the right of this short article, there are all the ”real” UFO photos (from past sun articles)….not.
The grantham journal said it was an april fool’s joke…. nice try, but no cigar! although i thought it was on april 1st?
In thisishampshire.net “Have UFOs come back to the South?” …short article
denbighsirefreepress.co.uk has “UFO: what the nurse saw“ (a ufo sighting from the past)
fenlandcitizen.co.uk has “UFO ‘gave me the heebie-jeebies’ ” it mentions
“Andrew Warren and his son, Stephen Whitrod, spotted a series of lights in the sky over their March Road home at around 11pm as they were checking on their chickens.
Mr Warren said he initially thought the lights were from the police helicopter, but then realised there was no noise ” (extract from article).
At Edinburgh.news it has “UFO mystery in the sky at night” + a short video; it starts with
“RISING eerily into the night sky, they’re unidentified, flying and orange” (extract from article); of interest is “”Mr Brennan said: “When we looked back over our shoulders we could see a succession of fiery orange lights moving across the sky. They appeared to be coming from the hills in groups of two or three, moving north very slowly and gradually burning out after about a minute“” (extract from article). Unfortunately, i feel that these sightings could have been chinese lanterns?
The westonmercury has “Alien lands his UFO in weston?” It is a short article, and not of any help? with such terms as ”The little yellow man was spotted…[.]” and one look at the supposed photo, will wish you hadn’t clicked on this article in the first place.
The Islington Gazette has “Group sets up hotline for UFOs” it mentions
“The Islington Ufology and Supernatural Studies group has created the service to allow them to react quickly to sightings, such as the lights spotted over Archway last year. It claims that Islington is a “hotspot” for paranormal activity – and says seeing a UFO can be deeply troubling, requiring a couch and a sympathetic ear” (extract from article). It says at the end “To report a flying saucer or seek counselling following a “close encounter” call the hotline on 07500 346 688″ (extract from article).
Scotsman.com.news has “Your views online“…. source: edinburgh evening news.
The Norwich Evening news 24 has “Norwich boffin: Don’t wait up for ET” it comments
“Scientists at the University of East Anglia have produced a mathematical model suggesting the odds of finding new life on other planets are less than 0.01pc over four billion years, which means mankind will have died out before ET ever comes calling.
The findings are based on the time it has taken for humans to evolve compared with the remaining life span of Earth” (extract from article). mmm…. no comment. (i do actually believe that this is an old article, around 2 years old…. i just need to find it, to confirm).
The redditch advertiser mentions “Couple chronicle close encounters“
“AFTER a close encounter of the third kind, an Alvechurch resident has spent the last 10 years researching UFOs.
John Hanson and his partner Dawn Holloway are working on a series of volumes dating from 1940 to 2008 which catalogue a day-by-day account of UFO activity in the UK.
The series, called Haunted Skies, contains an in-depth examination of UFO events as well as illustrations and interviews” (extract from article).
Blackpool gazette has ”UFOs head for our bright lights” it says: “It’s the latest in a string of mysterious incidents which have seen Lancashire – and the Fylde in particular – earmarked as one of the UK’s UFO hot spots.
Stephen Morris, 44, claims he spotted a UFO hovering silently in the sky on Monday evening at 10:45pm.
Mr Morris spied the grey, triangular object heading towards the sea above houses in St.Alban’s Road, St.Annes” (extract from article).
midweekherald.co.uk has “Aliens land UFO on roundball hill“… i have a feeling this is not all it seems (short article)…it says watch this space.
The update to the midweekherald “UPDATE: Aliens land UFO on roundball Hill” claims that “…[.] it has been confirmed that the aliens were children camping on the hill.
Their tents were pitched on the brow of roundball, providing a surreal sight for hundreds of residents below ” (extract from article)…. now thats quality reporting….. don’t you think.
granthamjournal.com has “UFO sighted over Grantham” it mentions
” (extract from short post, with photo).
The cambs times has “Exclusive : Unidentified lights were sky lanterns released at wedding reception!” it says
“A number of readers wrote in to say they had witnessed the strange lights and speculation was rife about whether they were UFOs.
But Jamie and Caroline Turnbull have cleared up the mystery saying they held their wedding reception in the garden of their Chatteris home on April 5 and released 30 sky lanterns to celebrate” (extract from article). It also has photos of sky lanterns.
edinburghnews has “Teenager’s party blaimed for UFO mystery” it says
“It has now emerged that the orange orbs, which were caught on film by walkers in the Braid Hills area, were Chinese sky lanterns let off during a teenager’s birthday party.
Several people reported seeing the lights between 8.50pm and 9pm on Saturday, April 12” (extract from article).
The journal-online.co.uk has “UFOs over Braid Hills” it mentions :
“The Braid Hills area of Edinburgh played host to some unusual visitors on Saturday night. A crowd of eyewitnesses, including several University of Edinburgh students, reported seeing strange lights hovering in the sky at around 9pm.
Lyle Brennan, 19, said: “We were trying to find our way home when we saw a series of orange lights rising very slowly into the sky. They appeared to be coming from behind the hill, drifting to a high altitude and eventually extinguishing” (extract from article).
This is Cheshire “UFOs spotted in the winsford sky” it says:
“A WINSFORD man claims to have seen three unidentified flying objects in the town’s sky within a year.
The objects were seen above homes in Chesterfield Close in the town” (extract from article). Also the same article in winsfordguardian .
This month would not be complete without at least one Sun article (mmm…) In “Tourist snaps UFO in Croydon“. The photo is quite clearly a balloon, it’s sad, but then what do you expect. As one commenter of the post points out “what a load of cR*P”. Indeed.
news.scotsman.com has “Robert McNeil: Strange goings on in Morningside – that’l be the UFOs then“
This is staffordshire has “MOD reveals two ufo sightings over Stoke-on-trent” Its a short article, but nothing new here i’m afraid…
granthamjournal.com has “YOUR COMMENTS- VIDEO: glowing orange UFO caught on film” i’m afraid these look like chinese lanterns? this article has a video (although its not very impressive, i’m afraid and does not really help). what do you think?
At seacoastonline in the stratham news (briefs) seen here , there is an entry that (in full below)
“Kathleen Marden, Stratham resident and co-author of “Captured!: The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience,” will speak at the Wiggin Memorial Library on Thursday, May 8 at 6:30 p.m. Marden, who is the niece of Betty and Barney Hill, will present the story of her Aunt Betty Hill’s and Uncle Barney Hill’s 1961 UFO encounter and its fascinating aftermath, including a slide show of their encounter route, the evidence, and excerpts from their hypnosis sessions with Dr. Benjamin Simon“
(taken from www.seacoastonline.com ).
The conclusion (a rough summing up) to the UK sightings will be made here within the next week.
CONFERENCE EVENTS THIS YEAR:
http://www.lapisufo.com/ lapis conference on 14th june 2008…..
http://www.nowthatsweird.co.uk/fusion/news.php conference 2008 21st and 22nd june