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UFO Update ( 39 )

Posted by dandare on April 28, 2008

Welcome to UFO Update (39 )

We start off with something from Associated content (posted 25thy april, 2008 );it is amusing and i found myself laughing! the post “Red Rock Ufo crash” mentions that the (allegedly) missing persons scott pendleton and jen fox, made a video in 2005, which is the only evidence of their existence. see below  for video…..

From the Moultrie Observer we have “About UFOs” (posted 21st april, 2008 ); it mentions

UFO sightings are common in all parts of the country but most go unreported because the local press does not usually report on this activity” (extract from short article).

At the salt lake tribune “A candidate doesn’t mind being labeled wacko” (posted 21st april, 2008 ); it says:

A typical campaign kickoff doesn’t resemble an “X Files” convention. Nor is there usually discussion of UFOs crisscrossing the night sky or of government programs to conceal extraterrestrial technology.
And most politicians yearning for office avoid banners proclaiming, “”It’s not about the lights in the sky, but about the lies on the ground.””
Joseph Buchman, however, announced his candidacy for the 1st Congressional District of Utah under that banner, and his official announcement was book ended by talk of the news media ignoring signs of extraterrestrial visits and the military’s blockade of information about outer space visitors
” (extract from article ).

boinboing.net mentions “Retro-future space visions- “”2063 A.D.”” , from general Dynamics Astronautics” (posted 15th april, 2008 ). It says: 

Over at the Paleofuture blog, a post with digital scans of the rare book 2063 A.D., published in 1963 by General Dynamics Astronautics” (extract from article)… it then quotes from the blog…. also hae a look at the comments below the short article.

At Rice Lake online (posted 16th april, 2008 ) “Reports put UFO near airport” It says: 

A Chetek family driving on Hwy. 53 near Hwy. 8 at about 9:40 on Monday evening, April 14 is convinced they had an encounter with a UFO. Sheriff’s dispatch logs have reports from Chetek and Cameron at about the same time.
But Rice Lake airport manager Jerry Stites said he reviewed the survelliance tapes from the airport, which could have recorded activity along Hwy. 53, and found nothing unusual. He did say, however, that the tape showed an aircraft doing touch-and-go landings at the airport from about 9:20-10:35 p.m
” (extract from article ). Also a short report on this can be seen at the Chetek Alert, here .

The keyhole research has “UFO response Team?” (recent posting but no date on page). it says:

A big black police-style cruiser with a white roof and a hand operated searchlight outside the passenger and driver side doors speeds past me on highway 36 heading towards Boulder, CO. In big white letters on the trunk are posted the words “”UFO RESPONSE TEAM.”” (extract from article ). It goes on to say that he did a google and found the same car photographed..see here for link.

At usatoday.com “Skeptics group studies serious and silly science” (posted 21st april, 2008 ):

Monthly meetings of NMSR, as the organization is known by its members and friends, are the sorts of places you can go to learn about the truly strange — UFOs and lake monsters, to take two examples — but also the scientifically serious” (extract from article NMSR=New Mexicans for Science and Reason).

ufocasebook.com has “UFOs over Dakota County? MUFON field  investigator Reports” (posted 9th april,2008 ) it mentions:

Wednesday, 09 April 2008-As a field investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, Bill McNeff has collected data at the scenes of more than 50 UFO sightings.

In at least 30 of those cases, the witnesses reported seeing intelligent beings of some kind, he said” (extract from article ).

At weblogs.chicagotribune.com (the swamp) says “UFO hunter for clinton: X-conference” (posted 21st april,2008 ). It says:

For a number Americans the economy is a major issue for this upcoming presidential election. But many of those attending the X-Conference held in suburban Washington, D.C., over the weekend are concerned with a different kind of green.

The X-Conference is a weekend-long symposium on exopolitics–or governmental, political or social issues relating to aliens and UFOs. Various heavyweights in the UFO community came to the event to speak about their work and to discuss a conspiracy to cover up encounters with the third kind” (extract from article).

At the mirror.co.uk “Secrets and lies director Mike Leigh admits crop circle obsession” (posted 24th april, 2008 ). “First Robbie Williams announced that he was obsessed with aliens – now award-winning Brit film-maker Mike Leigh has come out as a crop circle anorak, the Mirror can exclusively reveal.

The director, who’s film Happy-Go-Lucky hit UK cinemas this week, admitted his belief in alien close encounters at a screening of his film in London this week” (extract from article).

jaunted.com has “UFO prepares to Invade Lithuania” (posted 18th april, 2008 ).

The guardian has an interesting article “I’m loving aliens instead” (posted 19th april, 2008 ). This is a decent article, which many other media have commented on, and in my opinion have not been very accurate… anway, an extract from the guardian can be seen below for a flavour of what this is about.

On December 18 2006, Robbie Williams played the last of 59 stadium shows in a row, announced he was going to spend Christmas at his home in Los Angeles, and then basically disappeared…[.]…His record company, EMI, announced he had no plans to release an album in 2008. Today he unexpectedly calls me to ask if I want to go with him to the desert in Nevada to meet UFO abductees” (EXTRACT FROM ARTICLE) later on whilst at the conference…..

“”There’s two sides to Rob in that respect, though, aren’t there?” Brandon says. “There’s the side that wants to go along with it, but there’s also a very sarcastic, sceptical side.” He pauses. “Which I’d like to think is the real side.” Robbie comes back” (extract from article). I will give links to other media coverage of this, but in my opinion as i have said above it has been done poorly… they are at THE SUN and  THE DAILY STAR  for example.  

ufomystic.com has “Another factor in the Hill abduction” (posted 19th april,2008 ) it says:

Randle points out that neither of the Hills claimed to be science fiction fans and said that they were only dimly aware of the Twilight Zone series. Of course they could have seen one of the shows, or even a network promo with the alien masks. The point is that these images could have influenced their recollections, and therefore the (often) hypnotically recalled memories of many other abductions” (extract from article ). The Kevin Randle article “A different persective: Betty Hill and the twilight zone” (posted 19th april,2008 ).

At commercial-achive.com it has “Sieben, Grose, Von Holtum & Carey – UFO – (2008):30 (USA )” (posted 23rd april,2008 ).

What might possibly have escaped your attention was the sighting at Saint Augustine (Florida) whilst most of the attention went on Phoenix.. KVIA.com reports on both with videos included “UFO sighting causes stur in Florida, Arizona” (posted 23rd april, 2008 ). Other similar articles can be found at tampabays10.com “UFO’s spotted over St. Augustine” (posted 19th april, 2008 ).

firstcoastnews.com “St. Augustine residents say a UFO flew over their homes” (posted 19th april, 2008 ).

firstcoastnews.com “Strange and unusual – Two UFO sightings in St. Augustine in two weeks” (posted 21st april 2008 ) with video.

nbc11.com “some see ufos inFla. skies” (posted 21st april, 2008 ) with videos.

cfnews13.com “Was it a UFO, or lanterns?” (posted 22nd april,2008 ). seems interesting that they only start this idea, after Phoenix lights are said to be a Hoax???

On another incident, wish tv 8 has “Mysterious lights, boom baffle residents” (posted 17th april, 2008 ):  “TIPTON COUNTY, Ind. (WISH) – Police are still not sure what caused a bright light in the sky followed by a loud explosion near the Tipton-Howard County line” (extract from article ).

And lastly….. waff.com has “UFO sighting in decatur” (posted 27th april,2008 ). with a video… one explanation is that, it could be a meteorite.








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Stephenville Ufo sighting 2008:looking back + latest updates (3 of 4)

Posted by dandare on April 25, 2008

Welcome to part 3…… we begin with.


Formal news conference, March 2008 (Dublin Rotary Club Building) on Stephenville UFO sighting

Posted by dandare on February 10, 2008

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According to San Angelo live here :

Steve Hudgeons, Mutual UFO Network assistant state director for Texas, released a media brief yesterday that promised a formal news conference in March at the Dublin Rotary Club Building. The Dallas Fort Worth MUFON chapter and Hudgeons will present information Hudgeons gathered during a late January trip to Stephenville, Texas, after UFO sightings had been reported there earlier in the month.

“The media will be invited to hear the results of our investigations,” Hudgeons wrote.

Hudgeons also reported that the DFW chapter has reserved the Dublin Rotary Building on Feb. 23 for additional witnesses to the Jan. 8 UFO sighting. “We . . . hope to see those that didn’t attend [the Stephenville follow-up investigation] or were unable to attend the Jan. 19th meeting,” Hudgeons wrote.

“We further ask that the Media NOT attend this meeting. We appreciate the new -found sincerity of the Media of late, however, 50 or so years of media ridicule hasn’t been forgotten and has caused many witnesses to shy away from our investigations.”

The Air Force Reserve released a statement on Jan. 23 claiming the bright lights and UFOs spotted in Stephenville had really been ten of their F-16 fighter jets on a nighttime training mission. This information contradicts their earlier denying of activity in the area.
( Full article from sanangelo live-posted feb 7th 2008 ).

I just hope, in light of very recent events, that the Dublin Rotary Building is not made available, for an unknown reason??

 The same day i wrote …

Stephenville UFO sighting- still more surprises-but not nice ones?

Posted by dandare on February 10, 2008



I now report on the nastier side of the Stephenville ufo sighting….

It is reported that one witness was harassed by an unknown source (and later i report on Angelia Joiner losing her job at the Stephenville Tribune )?

As was reported in the Stephenville Tribune (full article below):

More twists in the Sorrells’ saga By ANGELIA JOINER Staff Writer
Monday, February 4, 2008 11:19 AM CST

Answers.Ricky Sorrells just wants answers. And, in light of what he’s been through, it doesn’t seem to be a lot to ask.

Witnessing an unidentified flying object four times since the beginning of the new year, then having military aircraft whizzing over his land and disrupting his sleep and livestock, followed by a string of mysterious phone calls and in person encounters from individuals demanding he “shut up” about what he saw, and landing unexpectedly in the international spotlight, has taken a toll on the 37-year-old man accustomed to the simple life.

“If you told me a while back that I would be sitting here talking to you about UFOs I would have said, ‘No way, not in a million years,” Sorrells said. ” Now, I know for the rest of my life I’ll keep looking to find out what it was.”

Sorrells said he is receiving a lot of support from family and friends helping him to keep an eye on things. He said that support has been a great help to him.“I’m not going to freak out or anything,” Sorrells said. “I just think the government should come forward and help us to figure out this thing. I think people should write to their congressman or something.”
Sorrells said soon after his Associated Press interview went around the world in mid-January – not only was he allegedly contacted by a Lt. Colonel telling him to keep quiet about what he saw, he was also contacted by a woman named Linda Moulton Howe.
Howe’s Web site touts: “Earthfiles is a crossroads where experts, eyewitnesses and viewers meet to share the latest updates in earth and astronomical mysteries, in-depth reports that go beyond the 6 o’clock news.
Earthfiles reporter and editor, Linda Moulton Howe, is an Emmy Award-winning TV producer, investigative reporter and author who goes directly to the men and women at the forefront of science and environmental challenges and to firsthand eyewitnesses of high strangeness.
Earthfiles.com received the 2006 W3 Silver Award for excellence in news category. Earthfiles.com also received the 2003 WebAward for Standard of Excellence and the 2000 Encyclopedia Britannica Award honoring Internet excellence.”
Sorrells said he vaguely remembered listening to her on a radio program years ago while on a road trip and her name clicked with him. It was the only familiar name he knew and she promised to do an investigation so he agreed not to talk to anyone else until she could make the trip from New Mexico.
Howe arrived in Dublin last week and stayed with Sorrells and his family to conduct the investigation and left late last week.“I told her everything I knew and showed her my property,” Sorrels said. “After she left, I felt I had honored my commitment with her. Things have settled down a little and I feel free to talk about the experiences I have had. I just didn’t want to do anything that would interfere with her investigation because I want the truth.”

He said the last time he saw the object he was able to get a video on his camera phone and said he has seen some other “pretty good footage” taken by others.

One night Sorrells said he had four helicopters flying at such low altitude that when a spotlight was shined up at them from Sorrells’ pickup he could see the pilot throw his arm up in front of his eyes to block the light. But there has been another strange occurrence recently on his property that leads him to believe the military is involved. It was an unexpected visitor about 1 a.m. who may have left something behind.

“I was in bed asleep,” Sorrells said. “I keep my bird dogs on the east side of my house and three others on the west side. The black lab doesn’t bark until someone comes across the cattle guard and the Catahoula doesn’t bark until she actually sees someone. They were all barking so I got up to see what was going on.”

Sorrells said he walked to his bedroom window and looked out to the top of his driveway – he saw someone.

“I went around the bed and grabbed my rifle,” Sorrells said.

His family was still sleeping, so with one hand on his gun and one hand on his backdoor knob, he peered through the window of the door to see if he could spot the intruder again.

“He had positioned himself in between the car and the pickup 40 to 50 feet from my back door,” Sorrells said. “He stood staring at me rocking back and forth. I didn’t think his feet were moving but the next morning when looking at his tracks I could tell they were.”

Sorrels said it was cold and misting rain and it was obvious the guy was “dressed for the elements with a heavy parka-like coat.”

He said he strained to see if the man carried a gun but could not see one but could clearly see the face of someone he thought to be in his late 20s or early 30s judging from the way he “walked and acted.”

“I’m trying to decide whether or not to open the door,” Sorrells said. “We’re just standing there face to face looking at each other. I’m thinking he’s dressed for the elements and the dogs are raising such a ruckus he must know he’s in danger of being caught. That’s when I realized he wanted me to see him.”

Sorrells said the trespasser had positioned himself in such a way he decided he could be vulnerable if opened his door. He thought of his family and then the man slowly turned and walked into the woods.

“He walked through an area where I’d cleared the brush so apparently he’d been there before because he knew where to go,” Sorrells said.

Sorrells said shortly after the unwelcome caller disappeared the dogs calmed down and he stayed up the rest of the night to keep watch.

Later, when walking through the woods on his property with Howe, he decided to return to a bare spot where his property line ends at a fence.

“It is washed out there and I like to go there to look for deer and turkey tracks.” Sorrells said. He said he’s an avid hunter and keeps abreast of the wildlife on his place. He said he had not been to this particular spot in about a month.

“The first thing I saw was a man’s footprint,” Sorrells said. “Ms. Howe videotaped me putting my foot beside it. The sun was going down and I saw something shiny.”

Sorrells said he walked over and picked up a bullet – a shiny new 25-06 Remington – with some dotted tarnished smudges.

“I think the man that I saw that night dropped this bullet and the tarnished spots are from the misting rain that night,” Sorrells said. ” I just think it was the military showing me they could get to me if they wanted to.”

Sorrells said he just doesn’t think a hunter poaching on his property would’ve dropped the bullet. He said he doesn’t have trouble with poachers. While he knows there is no way to prove it could have been from the same man it’s something he keeps mulling over.

 Sorrells returned home with the bullet in hand and took it apart to look at the powder to see if he could glean any information at all. A local gun and ammunition authority said there was no way to identify if such a bullet was from a military source.

“Talking about military powder is like talking about military gasoline,” he said. “There is no difference.”

Meanwhile, Sorrells said he and other witnesses are considering setting up a Web site to encourage people to do what they can to influence government participation in finding out about the curious, sometimes frightening, sightings.

“I’ve heard that other countries are releasing information on what they know,” Sorrells said. “We’re thinking of calling it (the site) ‘Stephenville Lights.’ Too many people have seen something not to try and continue finding out about it. We want to know what it was”. 

Some people have suggested that he is only in it for some fame, but i’m not so sure; i believe that he could be telling the truth.




However, this is not the only strange news to come out of this UFO sighting:

Angelia Joiner has lost her job at the Stephenville Tribune for evidently writing too much about the UFO sighting….. well i for one am glad she did, and she must have worked hard, for all the articles were excellent.

 She kept us all informed about what was going on….and i say this because as i live in the UK, reliable sources on this were hard to come by, but Angelia’s was one that i came to enjoy, for its frankness and detailed articles. so thank you.  

Whatever happened to freedom of speech; the Stephenville Tribune must have got many hits from its website alone, solely on the UFO sighting coverage, and many more must have bought the paper due to these sightings.

Also write a message on the guestbook to protest at Angelia being forced to leave her job (just pretend it was you…. how would you have felt….i know i would have been annoyed).

the link is http://empiretribune.com/guestbook/  (this is now unavailable..).

The american Chronicle has an article on this here . Lastly, i wish Angelia Joiner all the best, and hope she finds work soon…..thanks for keeping us informed about the sighting and good luck.

Letter Protesting firing of Reporter covering UFO story (very short article)

Posted by dandare on February 12, 2008

Ok….. i have highlighted this article, just in case you are not aware of it…. it is basically a letter of protest aimed at E-T (thats stephenville Empire Tribune), also a link to congress can be found here too. the article can be found here  .

Unfortunately i cannot use the congress link, but will be thinking of an e-mail to write to the paper.  

Fox 4: UFO investigation won’t go away

Posted by dandare on February 14, 2008


 Fox4 has an interesting video about the Stephenville ufo sighting which is definately worth watching….according to this, the sightings came from a 60 mile radius, and are still being seen. see here for video.  (posted 13th feb,2008). I am still a bit skeptical about the photos of the ufo though!

Another interesting source i have stumbled across, although written in 1996, mentions in these documents, Air Force procedure with regard to ufos … see here for details (PDF file).

For map of stephenville see here .

Angelia Joiner – reporting again on Stephenville UFO sightings

Posted by dandare on February 14, 2008

She’s back, and on Stephenvillelight.com , reporting new information about the ufo sightings… it starts

“”It’s clear.
Whatever is hovering over Erath County isn’t leaving. UFO reports are pouring in. Two are from original witnesses, and two new ones are coming aboard.
This time there are pictures and video — Constable Lee Roy Gaitan made sure of it.
The following are accounts from Gaitan, Ricky Sorrells, Mac McKinnon, and a source not wishing to be identified.
Note: Gaitan’s first sighting was with his eight-year-old son on Jan. 8 when he saw a red glow that faded and then reappeared. Later he said he saw bright white lights that seemed to “bounce around in the sky” and took off at a “blazing speed”” (extract from article).

alien tag


Their Mission Statement near the bottom states:
“Our purpose is to promote full disclosure of knowledge and information regarding unidentified flying objects throughout the world by encouraging the government and military forces of the United States of America through reasonable and peaceful means provided to us by the United States Constitution” (exact words from article).

I look forward to more from this site…. its good news.

Stephenville UFO you tube videos

Posted by dandare on February 20, 2008

I have added here, all the videos that i previously missed….. for Stephenville UFO sighting. (will add some more tommorrow, if i find some more).

Mark Murphy of Stephenville at MUFON conference

Texas ufo update (from 21st jan 2008 )

Cell phone footage from TV21 (24th jan,2008 )

What people in texas really saw (part 1)

What people in texas really saw (part 2)

Eye witness Rodney Pate

Texas ufo- actual footage (i believe this to be a fake/blip on this video)

the stephenville lights

Angelia Joiner – gains work at Mandatory FM

Posted by dandare on February 24, 2008

Mandatory FM
According to the Star-Telegram.com, angelia joiner has joined the radio station Mandatory FM (107.9 stephenville,texas, and 98.5 Ranger, TX)…

Please see full article below for details (posted 21st feb,2008)…..

The former Stephenville Empire-Tribune journalist known nationally for her stories about UFO sightings over Texas last month was not kidnapped by the military nor abducted by aliens.

Angelia Joiner says that after working for the newspaper for 18 months, she left a couple of weeks ago to “pursue other avenues,” including the UFO story. Her departure was noted on several blogs with suspicion.

She is now working with several UFO witnesses to start a Web site devoted to uncovering the truth behind the dozens of reports of strange objects flying Jan. 8 over Stephenville, about 70 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

Joiner says that she has been hired recently as news director for radio station KCUB/107.9 FM, which touts itself as “your official Stephenville UFO information station” on its Web site.

“Just in the last five days I’ve received 800 e-mails about UFOs,” Joiner said.

Also online: www.stephenvillelights.com


At the radio station, it mentions that Angelia will be keeping listeners up to date with local sightings.

There are a few UFO  interviews on the home page, worth listening to as well.

The radio station also plays some nice music to boot.

Gets my vote………………. )

I wish Angelia and the Radio station all the best…


Stephenville UFO sightings: More evidence is collected

Posted by dandare on February 26, 2008

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On saturday 23rd february 2008, MUFON visited Dublin, Texas for a second time, and gathered 17 additional UFO sighting reports. Apart from a few local reporters being present, all other media was not not allowed in, due to some witnesses being intimidated by such a presence (although the history channel’s UFO hunters were present and a reporter from NY times).

According to Angelia Joiner’s article, The chief investigator, Steve Hudgeons, spoke to Ricky Sorrells for nearly 1 hour (he had been interviewed before on the 14th january by another MUFON member).

He then went on to add that through their records, from 1977 – november 2007 there were 400 sighting reports. But from november 2007 to today, there were around 150 reports.

Hudgeons said a final report will be made public, even though there are still ongoing sightings in the area… also a timeline format will be made available on the MUFON site soon, and will include a report on the david Coran video, (on 19/20 jan).

The main report will be available in April, in the MUFON journal; also a news conference will also be held too on the findings. 



From Stephenvillelights.com (posted 24th February,2008 ) 

this article,  i have decided to reproduce in full and can be seen below….

Erath County Officer witnesses UFO

Another law enforcement officer has come forward in the strange and mysterious UFO sightings in Erath County.Sgt. Jim Clifton of the Erath County Sheriff’s Department was with Erath County Constable Lee Roy Gaitan in the early morning hours of Feb. 2 on U.S. Hwy. 377 when both saw something extraordinary in the black sky.“It was a clear night, no clouds, no moon, and a dark night,” Clifton said. “I’ve never seen anything like that before in my career. I’ve never seen any aircraft like that. The lights did not appear to be military. I was very amazed at what we saw.”Clifton said he received a call to check out an alarm at Woody’s restaurant and when he got to the eatery, Gaitan had heard the call also and was already there. The two took care of business and then Gaitan told Clifton there was something in the sky.

“He heard the alarm and got there before I did,” Clifton said. “I got in the car with him and observed this with him. It looked like it was over the Highland area to the west and it was a large object.”

Clifton said they observed the unidentified flying object through the “dash cam” in the car and could see it quite clearly with the zoom feature. He said the camera is in a permanent mount, which is stationary. So, in his eyes, the video is more than credible because shaking the camera could not be a concern.

“To your naked eye it looked like a bright light and I couldn’t really tell if it was moving, but I don’t think it was,” Clifton said. “What it looked like is difficult to describe because there is nothing to compare it to.”

Clifton said the object had a transparent or perhaps translucent appearance and it had ” a fog or vapor or cloud around it.”

Clifton said he saw colors of white, blue, and red.

“I wasn’t frightened – I was just trying to think of what it might be,” Clifton said. “I don’t have a clue. I wish I had an explanation but I can’t think of any explanation. The thing that impressed me was how big it was. It stuck in my mind.”

Clifton said he is looking at the sky more now to try and see it again. He said most people he knows are doing the same.

Clifton said he has seen a video from Canada in what he thinks was the year 2007 that is most similar to what he and Gaitan saw.

Both men said the sighting was reported to the Erath County Sheriff’s office at the time.

Now that just adds to the evidence….. What i immediately see as interesting is “the object had a transparent or perhaps translucent appearance and it had ” a fog or vapor or cloud around it.”

And the fact that he spoke of a similar video sighting from 2007 in Canada; i’ve done a quick scan for such sightings, but unless i’m missing something here, am unable to find what he is referring too….will not give up the hunt though. 


References/sources for this a post/blog entry :



I apologise for the blog entry here… i was short on time, but wanted to post it as soon as possible.


Angelina Joiner:3rd Officer comes forward about UFO sighting in stephenville

Posted by dandare on March 3, 2008

Recently, angelina Joiner wrote at stephenvillelights.com  about a third police officer (a former protector of Texas governors) who came forward as a UFO witness;

I have enclosed the whole article here, as i feel it is needed to be seen in its full context; with a small summary by me at the end, of the stephenville ‘flap’.

Mike Zimmerman, 62, retired from the Texas Department of Public Safety after 25 years but not before he was on Protective Detail for five Texas Governors.Zimmerman was assigned to protect Governors Briscoe, Clements, White, Richards and Bush for a period spanning 19 years.“Clements was governor twice,” he said.To date, Zimmerman may be the most credible witness to come forward to report what Erath County residents have been coming forward in droves to report since January 8 — another unidentified flying object.He said it was 6:05 a.m. on January 31 when he awoke from a peaceful slumber for a Mother Nature call. As he was returning to bed, something caught his eye through the bedroom window of his home located just past the city limits on U.S. Highway 281 South in Stephenville, Texas.“I saw three bright lights,” Zimmerman said. “Two white lights were grouped closer together and higher and the third one was closer to the horizon. That one was a was a reddish orange color.”Zimmerman shared a sketch and notes he had jotted down.

But, there is more to this story…The two white lights also were shooting out beams of white light in a pulsating strobe light effect. The reddish orange light closer to the horizon did not have beams shooting from it.
“At first I thought it might be three helicopters with really bright search lights until I noticed the beams of white lights shooting out to the side of the bright lights,” Zimmerman said.He said he awoke his fiancée to make sure he was seeing what he thought he was seeing. The couple watched for approximately three minutes he said.
“What I saw is completely different from what Lee Roy (Gaitan) saw,” Zimmerman said. “The beams from the side weren’t as obvious as the bright big lights and they were just real quick. The whole beam would just shoot out there and just disappear. If anyone had taken a picture with a timed exposure they would have caught all of them (shooting beams) at one time. It was strange. I have never seen anything like this before at all.”
Zimmerman said the sun was rising and he’s not sure how the lights disappeared. He said he didn’t know if they became less obvious because of the sun’s light or if they just left.“I could have turned away for a minute and they left,” Zimmerman said. “I’m not sure what happened, but I remembered looking and they just weren’t there anymore.”
Zimmerman said his home faces the northwest and his bedroom is on the back of the structure.“I got out my compass and it indicated 115 degrees,” Zimmerman said. “So the objects would have been more to the east.”
Zimmerman said he had talked with Gaitan on January 9 so he was aware of the object Gaitan and his son had viewed on the evening of January 8.
When asked if he was able to ascertain if the objects appeared to be under intelligent control, he said he could not say because he didn’t see them move.

“I hope it’s military,” Zimmerman said. “I know they’ve got things. I could go either way (opinion of military or alien) but it was out of the ordinary and I have never seen anything like it before.”

Zimmerman said as he was watching the shooting beams he at first wondered if something could be going on at Fort Hood.

“That’s the first thought I had, but that’s a long way off and it appeared to be closer than that,” Zimmerman said.

Zimmerman estimated that with a dime held out with his arm fully extended, the objects would have been slightly larger than the dime.

He is currently employed as an officer with the Tarleton State University Police and he said he has not had another sighting, but openly confessed, “I pay more attention now and I’m watching for it.”

When asked why he waited so long to come forward, he looked thoughtful and then he said, “It was something I had to think about and it didn’t seem the same as what Lee Roy (Gaitan) saw.”

The Stephenville UFO saga continues with Zimmerman being the third officer to come forward after Erath County Constable Lee Roy Gaitan and Sheriff’s Deputy Jim Clifton
” (posted 28th feb,2008 ) 





So as we can see, the stephenville ufo ”flap” was not just confined to the 8th-10th january (although the world media focused in on the 8th-10th january, 2008). MUFON and other sources of information collected, and pieced together, prove that the ‘flap’ took place over a much larger period of time. 

There is even suggestions that the starting period, was around december 2007, with sightings in Lubbock and San Antonio (although i’m not sure of this, however this must not be discounted).

However, according to reports that MUFON and other organisations recieved the following week (from the 13th – 19th january), it suggests that the activity was not letting up much.

From Stephenville, the concentration of sightings, later shifted, to other areas in its vacinity.

There are still so many more questions that need answering….. hopefully, MUFON will help fill in the gaps with more information, and answer some of the questions in April, when they report on their findings.

What do you think? does the flap have a reason or is it just random? is it human or something else? I am still searching for an answer to questions… whether we will ever find out the truth, is another story.


Leaked David caron Stephenville UFO video…analysis

Posted by dandare on March 7, 2008


A local, David Caron captured (at Clark Field), what he believed was a UFO on video (on both 19th + 2oth january,2008); this video was leaked on the internet, at you tube, on the 5th march 2008.

The link below is to the stephenvillelights.com website where it can be seen…. the ones on you tube could be taken down anytime, therefore i have not linked to these for this reason (for now).

The video can be found at


I have tried to collect as much information on this video from the internet, as well as some of my own theories, to try to get to the reality of what we are seeing.

I was also going to show, + see for myself, the Dorothy Izzatt case (which was on video), where it is mentioned that the sighting was similar too; unfortunately, it has been removed due to copyright claim by outside the box Productions,LLC.

The video debate centres around these main points:

A laser projection?
Shake and/or vibration from the camera
Are we looking at the night sky?
long exposure of the video camera
It was Canis Majoris/Sirius
So what about the first point…..

1. could it have been a laser projection that they captured….. it has been debated that laser shows,ect only have one colour to them; however, this is not the case any more.

These 3 are just some of many examples of what is now available, even some that can quite easily write onto large buildings. Some are more professionally made than this.

However, at this distance there would need to be some serious equipement used…no ordinary laser pen is going to be able to project the image this far, and it needs a backdrop to be able to work …even a smoky or misty night would do it, although i’m pretty sure it was neither the nights in question(although i am aware that a backdrop might not be needed ; something that ionises the air-this might not be real though).

Are there/were there any Raves around at the time of the event? could be another source. Could be the military, but to what purpose.

2. shake/vibration from the camera; david claimed that the camera was ‘quite still’, but from experience, i know this to be very differcult to achieve in reality…. sure he could have propped himself up on a wall, tree, and so on, but just from breathing, this can cause shaking….ah, just found out he propped himself up on a post on his porch.

On a digital camera, to take a good shot without a tripod, you try to anchor/prop yourself on something, and just before you take the shot, you either breath in or out.. to get maximum quality; on a camcorder this is made more problematic.

Could the shaking/vibration have caused this effect- especially if close on the subject, as the slightest movement has much more of an impact when zooming into an object at night. Also, he was using a JVC (that is the type used) effect, night vision feature (night alive). Could this have changed the image?

3. Are we looking at the night sky; what i’m saying is, i cannot see any suggestion that we are looking into the night sky at all; for all i know it could be a tv screen? basically, there are no reference points?

4. Long exposure of the video camera; it could be a series of pictures of a light source, using a long exposure ….. the effects of this can be similar to what we see….

5. That it was Canis Majoris/Sirius that was seen and what was on the video.

Have a look at these 2 videos on youtube

as you can see similar results have been achieved with this video from shooting/focusing on sirius.

I must make this clear, i am not trying to debunk this video, but to show that there are problems with this video…… also for proper analysis, the original video needs to be looked at in detail (ie the frame rates,ect).
If it was sirius, i think that he was honestly mistaken, and i am not claiming that he hoaxed this at all.
I have to be honest, and say i am not sure what all this means? I have definately not taken the symbols idea as being a true message, because for instance, how do we know it was written the right way (could be back to front), and other difficult questions/issues.

Again, i say we need to analysis all data, so that we can go forward with the UFO subject… if we do not do that then we will not get anywhere.

I will be adding to this debate as time goes on, if there are any ideas out there, or possibly those that enter my mind (mmmmm…).

As far as i stand, the Stephenville UFO sightings in this area, still need much more analysis, as something is going on…

Other sources of relevance/interest :

  UFO’s: are we alone? 

Stanton Friedman guest on Scooter McGee show PT1  

Stanton Friedman guest on Scooter McGee show PT2 (on 29th feb,2008 ) 

Bezier Curve

A review of the  JVC GR-D290 (believed to be used by david caron) 

Patrol car videotape, news media are factors in Texas UFO case 

UFO: Uncovering a national secret  

**END OF PART 3 **

PART 4 will consist of any additional updates (we are still waiting for the MUFON report which will hopefully answer alot more questions? about the Stephenville UFO sightings. Also i will try and draw a summary of it all. 

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UFO seen at Phoenix : 21st April 2008

Posted by dandare on April 23, 2008

UFO lights seen at Phoenix….

Here are the raw facts so far, that i know of…

  • Date : 21st April
  • Time : Around 8 pm
  • Location : North Phoenix
  • lasted approx 15-3o minutes
  • four lights…. White :also appeared red, depending on how you looked at them
  • Formation…. at first a line, then a square and also a triangle
  • Deer valley airport: did not know what they were

 There are quite a few links and videos to this…

In “mystery lights reported over Phoenix” (posted by KTAR 23rd april, 2008 ) it mentions  

A north Phoenix man told “The Arizona Republic” that he saw his neighbor launch several helium balloons with flares attached to them shortly before people began seeing the four red lights about 8 p.m.

That raised the possibility yesterday that the lights over Phoenix were sky lanterns, large objects resembling a balloon with a flame at the bottom. People use them for celebrations.

A Phoenix police chopper pilot who saw the Phoenix lights said they appeared to be flares, possibly hanging from one or more helium balloons ” (extract from article). Later on it goes on to mention

Dozens of listeners called News/Talk 92-3 KTAR just after 8 p.m. Monday, reporting they were watching the four mystery lights.

“From my position, it looked like they were just hanging, not moving at all,” said one man, who called 92-3’s “Gaydos After Dark.” He said he “absolutely” saw something” (extract from article).

Ireporter (CNN) Brad Drenning on youtube reporting on mystery lights [ also the comments to this are also interesting ]. he seems to suggest that this is not a flare?

3 different videos-phoenix red lights (it claims are a hoax ) balloons with flares attached?? also the comments are interesting reading.

“kare11.com has “Mystery over strange AZ lights may be solved” (posted 23rd april, 2008 )…short article. Also video at kare11.com see here .

azcentral.com has “Phoenix man: neighbor caused mondays’ mysterious lights” (posted 22nd april, 2008 ). Also it has “What on Earth were those lights”  it mentions

By Tuesday afternoon, there were 125,000 page views of the story on azcentral.com, 600,000 page views on the photographs and 40,000 viewings of the video.

The story was on the Drudge Report, FoxNews.com, ABC News and newspaper Web sites across the country. Almost immediately, there were theories about what the lights might be.

Perhaps they were high-altitude flares that were visible from a great distance in the clear Arizona sky.

Or maybe they were airplanes or helicopters or weather balloons.

One Phoenix man said he saw his neighbor launching small flares attached to helium balloons.

The mystery couldn’t be answered by civilian or military authorities ” (extract from article). It also has “Strange lights appear over valley again” (posted 21st april, 2008 ). Azcentral has more “UFO hunter expects more Phoenix lights” with video (22nd april, 2008 ).

At NECN extra it has a video, but with no audio at  http://www.necn.com/Boston/SciTech/UFO-sighting-in-Phoenix-/1208881093.html .

At tampabays10.com “UFO’s over Pheonix” (posted 22nd april, 2008 ) it mentions reporter Anne Ryman, who lives in Deer Valley, reported seeing four lights in a square shape that eventually became a triangular shape. The lights were moving to the east and they disappeared one by one. She said the lights were visible for about 13 minutes at about 8 p.m..

Arizona Republic

One north Phoenix resident, who wished to remain anonymous, said he saw four or five red lights lined up in a straight line and spaced apart evenly. The lights slowly moved east and became dimmer as the witness watched. He said the last light remained in the sky the longest. Then three jets came from the west and traveled in the direction of the red lights” (extract from article). Also with a video link.

Also of interest are:

abc15.com “Unexplained lights spotted above valley; were they flares? ” (with links to videos, and eyewitness acounts).

At blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com “Valley fever – Air traffic controllers who saw UFO muzzled by FAA” (posted 22nd april, 2008 ). Also, “Chopper pilot says UFOs probably balloons with flares” Posted 22nd, april 2008).

I am afraid i have not looked into this much at the moment (just skimmed the surface as it were).

Will definately try and find out more….

If you are interested in the Phoenix lights from 1997, please go to the right side of my blog; in topics i write about…. from pull down list, click on phoenix lights, and archive will be shown on page.

UPDATE: 26th

It does seem that, they were indeed road flares, attached to helium balloons… as has been pointed out in several forums such as abovetopsecret; this if true, is extremely dangerous for obvious reasons. However, if any new information is made available, i will update ASAP. For instance, there is an interesting article by the National Ledger about this …. see here for link (posted 23rd april, 2008 ) which asks some important questions. 

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Jodrell bank campaign..we will not go without a fight!

Posted by dandare on April 20, 2008

As an update to a post i made at  https://dandare.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/jodrell-bank-faced-with-closure-sign-10-downing-street-petition-online/

The Jodrell bank campaign is alive and kicking…. see this video below.

Basically the observatory could be closed if the funding for MERLIN is cut; now a campaign is starting to try and save it; started by both the manchester evening news , and silk fm.

The song is to be released on april 21st, 2008 as a download only single.     
Also in relation to this please see the video below about saving UK Astronomy

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Bloggers Unite…. May 15th…. on Human rights

Posted by dandare on April 20, 2008


 “May marks the first anniversary of Bloggers Unite and this time we’re fighting for Human Rights; the day has been set for May 15th” (extract from website)…if interested please click the link below, for more information… and bring awareness.

I will be breaking away from my usual topic for this day, and i will be posting links, from videos/articles about the Human rights abuses in Tibet… Please consider supporting this day, and write about your human rights issue…. 


Bloggers Unite

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UFO Update ( 38 )

Posted by dandare on April 19, 2008

Welcome to UFO Update (38 )


 We kick off this weeks Update with an article by Inexplicata (the journal of hispanic Ufology), which has “Mexico: Crews of 5 Airliners Report UFO Activity” posted april 11th, 2008 . It mentions

“All witnesses agreed on the traffic being intensely brilliant, with lights resembling airliner strobes (white and intermittent). The objects were described as brilliant spheres that were also surrounded by lights” (extract from article). The incident happened on march 23rd, 2008….seen by 5 airliner crews. another interesting article by inexplicata “Spain: sightings were a media hoax” posted april 15th 2008.

KOAA.com (posted 16th april, 2008 ) has “Divers search for UFO” it says that

“Over the winter, this farm pond south of Knoxville was the site of a UFO, an unidentified falling object, that appeared to have made a giant hole in the ice about 2 feet across.
The property owners, Denny and Terry Straube, enlisted the help of underwater photographers who took a picture of something. Then came the underwater video camera, the flashlights, and last month, the best evidence yet something was down there. And that was enough for the dive team from linn county to agree in writing to take a look” (extract from article). Nothing was found however, so it remains a mystery.

argentinastravel.com has “UFO photo not a hoax, says Hikers” (posted 15th april 2008 ) :

“A group of hikers at Quebrada del Condor in Mendoza province took a picture of what they claim to be a UFO. According to them, the photo was taken by a camera phone, and they didn’t notice the mysterious object hovering in the upper-right corner until they uploaded their pictures to the Internet” (extract from article). There are also other articles below relating to ufos.

 the chetek alert has “Area UFO sighting under investigation” ( april 16th, 2008 )… i might monitor this story to see if it develops into something** . It says “According to Barron County Sheriff Tom Richie, the dispatch center received numerous calls from individuals at approximately 10 p.m. Monday reporting a possible UFO. Barron County deputies on duty that night reportedly observed the object” (extract from article).

Later on it says that “Hauser’s father, Glen, also spoke with various local police officers who had gotten calls on the object as well. While working at Wal-Mart, Kristina also spoke with a Rice Lake police officer who had talked with local hospitals and the Federal Aviation Administration. All confirmed helicopters were grounded and there did not appear to be any air traffic in the area” (extract from article).

 At rigorousintuition.ca forum “will the real whitley Strieber stand up” although an oldish post, has an interesting topic…. have a look, it’s an interesting read: although i am going to be honest and say, i am not a fan of his.

blogcritics.org has “some thoughts on conspiracy theories” (posted 11th april, 2008 ).

tenerifenews.com has “UFO sighting over Gran Canaria” (not sure when posted but fairly recent ).

A short article: incident march 14th 2008..”One eye witness told local daily Canarias 7: “”It was something very large, circular, with lights all round it and from below it gave out a great downward beam of light”” (extract from article).

ufodigest.com has “Air Force sitting tight-lipped on sorrells’ saucer sighting” (posted april 13th, 2008 ); well worth reading.

I found an interesting discussion on abovetopsecret.com forum “UFOs and earthquakes” started 18th april, 2008; some interesting links already here.

 lightsovertexas.com has (posted 13th april 2008 ) “night of the UFOs in Texas – 8 january examined”  with map and external links.

seti.com has “UFOs: why no open contact?” ( posted 15th april 2008 ); definately gets your mind thinking.

 Several posts have been written about a mystery boom; journal gazette has “Mystery boom, lights near Kokomo” (posted 17th april 2008 )…. jconline “night flashes in Kokomo likely were meteorites” (posted 17th april 2008 ).

 wishtv.com in a different incident to above, says “National guard says jets caused mystery booms” (posted 17th april, 2008 ).

 OTHER posts quickly noted below:

novanewsnow.com “A visit to the UFO museum” posted 16th april, 2008.

cnn.com “X-files movie title revealed” posted 16th april, 2008.

stuff.co.nz “Mysterious UFO invades lounge”  posted 17th april, 2008.














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Stephenville UFO sighting 2008: looking back + latest updates (part 2 of 4)

Posted by dandare on April 17, 2008

Welcome to part 2 of Stephenville UFO sighting 2008….

The next blog entry i wrote was on the 27th january.. “Stephenville UFO debate continues”

alien tagis there no end to the excuses we’re given” (26th january,2008). It is a well written account, of what the military and people in authority are not telling us. Near the end it says:

More serious debate, has been carrying on, after the UFO sighting of january 8th).

There is an excellent article on  ufodigest.com entitled “

In all my years of doing research, I thought the Air Force had shot themselves in the foot several times, particularly with the 1997 “crash test dummies” excuse for Roswell, but I really believe they have outdone themselves with the Stephenville Texas sighting, by not accounting for ten F-16s for two weeks. How much longer will the American public have to put up with the excuses we are being given, when all we want to know is what is actually being seen by credible people who help to pay the salaries of these individuals in authority, that continue to give us lame excuses. It’s time for accountability” (extract from article).  

Challenging misimformation” (an old article, but relevant to what is going on). 


Also by Dennis Balthaser ”

Next, we have “Stephenville UFO: was the air force protecting the Presidential ranch” (posted 25th january,2008; frankwarren.com). map below.

Also at ufodigest.com is “Deeper views of Texas UFO sightings explored” (posted 25th january).

At the NatinalLedger.com “Texas UFO in Stephenville: seeing is believing” (posted 25th january,2008). It mainly runs through the events up until now, but at the end it mentions

“Some time back, I wrote that there cannot be a massive government conspiracy to keep a lid on knowledge of UFOs because our government cannot keep a secret. I’ll admit to having changed my mind.

While the bulk of the supposed sightings across the globe are probably either false alarms or hoaxes, too many of them have the ring of believability to be false. Too many people with nothing to gain by fabricating a UFO story have reported sightings in good faith. Far too many of these stories describe one or more of the same types of objects – either cigar-shaped or spherical, and either glowing from within or illuminated by banks of colorful lights” (extract from article).

Next i had a recap 29th january in “Stephenville UFO: the facts so far”

F-16 CJ (wildcat)


I thought it would be good, to correlate all the information, that has been collected on this sighting, and pull it all together, and try and see what we have? If there is anything i have missed, please alert me to this, and i’ll ammend the records. (please also see my other posts on this site for more added details).


The main sighting that sparked media interest= January 8th 2008; between 6.15pm + 4.30am (9th january). However, it seems to have also happened over several days, up to the 10th january, i believe.


 40 + in Stephenville area (including piolt/business owners/county constable). Later, as events unfold, it seems the UFO was also seen in San Antonio, Victoria + Corpus Christi (also on the 8th january). At San Antonio – cigar shaped ufo with a multitude of lights present (information from MUFON).


UFO – MOST COMMON among varied reports were;

very bright lights (lights similar to strobe lights), low and fast moving, no noise.

some accounts below:

” lights spanned about a mile long, half a mile wide….lights went from corner to corner” and that it’s speed was approx 3000 mph.

red glowing lights then white flashing lights…. dancing around appeared, reappeared. spread out in the sky, formed formation, then took off at high speed; it appeared attached.

Some suggest that ufo was chased by jets (possibly F-16s). One witness saw very bright yellow lights.


Military: No airplanes in the air that night: said ufo was an illusion caused by 2 commercial airplanes.

MUFON get involved; seems like Chicago/O’Hare airport + Pheonix lights – authorities are covering up something? what is it, is the question?

January 18th – MUFON investigators arrive at Dublin to take witness statements/accounts (in detail). Alot of media there to cover the event.

Pilot statement made to media – (Fort worth medical helicopter pilot) suggested it was flares (seems like pre-meditated disinformation to me). 

I also made checks on NASA (recent debris) database site – no man made space debris, re-entering on that date/or near that date.

Larry King show – several programmes to this event shown.

Cell phone photo – (seems to be a dog star and unrelated).

Then most significantly, 2 weeks after event, military changes its story; It says it had 10 F-16s from the 457th fighter squad training between 6 and 8pm, in Brownwoods military operating area (which it says includes Erath County).

Witnesses + MUFON says this enhances their story…as some say ufo chased by fighter planes. Many say this U- turn is a cover up?

MUFON to travel to San Antonio area to gather more eye witness accounts.

Recently it has come to light that, the Air Force could have been protecting the Presidential Ranch- edge of restricted zone (clas D air space), 16 miles SE of Stephenville. I do not understand why the local press did not pick up on this earlier? this is significant information…. i for one did not realise it was this close to Stephenville.


Whatever happened at Stephenville, the government are not telling us what the hell is going on? i’m afraid. Unless, of course they take us for being stupid.

For instance, i did a little research on F-16 combat formations…. admittedly the most useful i found was from 1996, but it gave some interesting facts. It mentioned that “the basic combat formation employed by tactical fighters is the four-ship flight. The two-ship element is the basic flight unit….. [.] there is a need for both line abreast and wedge formations” (p22). Goes into great detail, with diagrams of the different formations used. Also it says that “Adding additional four-ships to increase to 8-12 jets has been combat tested with some controversial success”. See here for source.

 So basically, this is a rarity, and not often used. SO we can conclude that this is:

  1. not one formation (very unlikely-not totally impossible, but very rare)
  2. Therefore a combination of 2 and 4 jets ….
  3. Unlikely to be all from the same base
  4. Protecting the presidential Ranch??
  5. Did the fighter jets come from further afield?   
  6. Are they responding to radar,ect
  7. Were special forces involved

 Additional information on military in texas:


  1. Brooks AFB
  2. Dyess AFB
  3. Goodfellows AFB
  4. Kelly AFB
  5. Lackland AFB
  6. Laughlin AFB
  7. Randolph AFB
  8. Sheppard AFB


  1. Fort Bliss
  2. Fort Hood
  3. Fort Sam Houston
  4. Red river Army depot


  1. NAS Corpus Christi
  2. NAS JRB Fort Worth
  3. NAS Ingleside
  4. NAS Kingsville

Also Lockhead Martin Aeronautics Company HQ (home of F-16 fighter Falcon + joint strike fighter). & miles west of Fort Worth, Texas.

Brownwood Military Operations Area (training area for fighters). 

  • There are many question and so little answers for now?

This sighting along with the O’Hare airport incident, and the Pheonix lights has got some asking “are these sightings related in any way?”  Also they seem to follow a similar pattern as far as the government/military are concerned. Cover stories tried, then hoaxing/disinformation is made to try to calm the incident down at a slightly later date ( to be honest this is so easy, it’s annoying, lol)…. it works?

Also, there are similar accounts of the ufo sighting, but there are also conflicting accounts of the ufo sighting. Why? 

Is the military hiding a black op secret plane being tested? if so, why near public? possibly to test our reaction to it, maybe? 

Also i say again

1 Why is a training exercise classified? as they will not go into operational procedures, not even the basics? Possibly because near the presidential ranch?

2 F-16s do not hover (unless i am wrong in this).

3 F-16s create sound ! and lots of it.

4 F-16s are not 1 mile wide.

Remember, all we are trying to establish here, is whether it is an UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) nothing more at this stage.

Maybe, the media should attempt to contact the F-16 pilots and ask them for a response (unlikely due to national security issues, i should imagine, but worth a try). Ask for a copy of their communications with ground controllers (AWACS). I hope they will generally put the heat up a bit, and apply pressure…. we need answers to our questions?

I’m also waiting for the Air Force, to next say that flares where used (does this sound familiar), especially using them in populated areas.

Also MUFON has had eye witness accounts, from the same time period, either side of the 8th january, in other areas, all with the similar accounts to Stephenville… were their trained F-16s all over the place? Also, did the training last for longer than january 8th? it would have had too. 

Will the Air Force hide behind classified information, and National Security, to bluff their way out of this one. Again, i say we need answers to questions? whether we will get them is another matter?

Will update on any other theories i have…. What do you think?

whats going on?

Next was…..

Stephenville UFO interviews (from you tube)

Posted by dandare on January 30, 2008

Whilst checking out the you tube sight, saw this informal video, in which people around Stephenville were interviewed about the sighting.  

Actually worth watching. (thanks to Convapics for posting it on you tube)


Stephenville ufo Texas fever (jan21st,2008 ) by CNN

Channel 8 News (23rd january,2008 )

Interview with James Shatley – MUFON (recorded at Dublin,Texas)

stephenville ufo 

UFO theories fly again (recent sightings raise questions)

Posted by dandare on January 31, 2008



An interesting article has come to light, and normally, i would just show a link and highlight some of the article; however, i think it warrants the full article here on this post: 

  UFO theories fly again

Recent ’sightings’ raise questions

By Trish ChoateMonday, January 28, 2008

WASHINGTON — Put the alien theories on hold and get the men in black a cup of coffee. You know how they like it.

Instead of beings from outer space visiting Big Country skies, the Air Force could be secretly working out the kinks in the next U-2 spy plane or B-2 stealth bomber in the skies over the Big Country.

U.S. military pilots might have been at the helm of Unidentified Flying Objects decked out with secret technology, accounting for reports from Erath, Brown and Comanche counties the past two months.

After all, the military possesses experimental technologies the public might not know about until decades after development.

“For national security reasons, of course, they’re disinclined to tell us about it,” Michael Shermer, executive director of the Skeptics Society and editor of Skeptic magazine, said.

Besides Shermer, an author of more than 20 books on secret and stealth technology, a think-tank expert and a former “Skunk Works” chief weighed in.

Among the possibilities: The government is conducting a campaign of disinformation, spreading UFO stories to cover up the truth, which is out there.

Or eyewitnesses surprised by fast-moving spheres and a gigantic “mother ship” simply saw jets from a nearby military base.

That includes the UFO sighting Jan. 8 around Stephenville, Texas, the day the Air Force said it had jets on a training mission in the area.

Either way, Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene, Texas, isn’t involved in black — classified — aircraft programs.

“We strictly deal with B-1s and C-130s here,” 1st Lt. William Powell, Dyess spokesman, said. “If it didn’t come from this base, which it didn’t, then I wouldn’t know what kind of aircraft was flying in that area on that date.”

John Pike, a defense and intelligence expert, said he believes the government has thrown up a smokescreen before, like with Area 51 in Nevada, to discredit witnesses.

“If they get people seeing lights all the time, and they don’t know what it is, one way of making the whole thing seem silly is to have people recall flying saucers,” Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, said. “And that way the whole story just kind of goes away.”

Area 51 has played a role in modern American mythology about everything from secret military technologies to alien spacecraft. Beliefs vary as to the truth about the southern Nevada location.

Back in the 1950s, the Air Force exploited the UFO scenario to divert attention from the U-2 being tested at a secret base in Nevada, said Bill Sweetman, who’s written extensively on stealth and black technology.

The U-2 was the only aircraft that could fly at such a high altitude for as long as it could, Sweetman, editor of Defense Technology International magazine, said.

“Airline pilots who didn’t know that a secret airplane was out there would see this object way up above them, and they would report it as a UFO,” he said.

Those sightings led to “Project Bluebook,” efforts to make people think they’d seen a natural phenomenon or something unexplainable — not a secret airplane, Sweetman said.

He didn’t want to hazard a guess about whether West Texans have spotted secret aircraft, but he was doubtful.

“Why would you fly it near a populated area at all?” he said.

And it’s impossible to speculate whether the Big Country UFOs were a sign of a secret program, said retired Air Force Col. Tom Ehrhardt, a former Pentagon chief of the “Skunk Works” or the Strategy, Concepts and Doctrine Division.

“That particular location for it seems improbable because, usually, we have more secure sites to do that sort of thing in than there,” said Ehrhardt, now of the nonprofit Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington.

Sites such as Area 51, he said.

“But you never want to say this isn’t one of those because I don’t have that knowledge,” Ehrhardt said.

Theories to the contrary, the UFO story hasn’t gone away yet.

“Our initial analysis is that we have at least two very promising pieces of evidence,” Ken Cherry, state director for the nonprofit Mutual UFO Network, said.

Video and still images show spheres in incredible maneuvers at high speed in the Big Country, Cherry said. Others have told MUFON of “a mother ship” a mile long and a half mile wide.

Eyewitnesses are ranchers, farmers, oilfield workers, shop owners, defense workers and others who talk of activity as far back as 30 years ago in the area, he said.

But could fast-moving spheres simply be the afterburners of 10 F-16s?

In an about face, the military said 10 F-16s from the 301st Fighter Wing at Naval Air Station Fort Worth Joint Reserve Base were on a training mission Jan. 8 in an area including Erath County.

Maj. Karl Lewis, a fighter wing spokesman, said it was just a mistake when he first told reporters the base had no planes in the sky that day.

“I did my best to correct it as soon as possible,” Lewis said.

But the story has wings.

Washington regional correspondent Trish Choate (source can be seen here ).

Thanks must go to  Steve   for suggesting i put this in a seperate post (i agree and thank you for finding the time to suggest this to me). 

I like this article, because it asks several interesting questions?


UPDATE 2nd febuary

At analuisacid.com there is an interesting article on the Stephenville ufo sighting and it warrants a mention (see http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.analuisacid.com%2F&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 for full article)

I draw you to “Byron Mitchell, a teacher from a local school in this small farming population and a partner in that volunteer MUFON air managed to interview several witnesses of this latest sighting.
According to Mitchell, 8 10 1500 m. Length and width of approximately 700, was an ovoid shape and had a set of lights that constantly changing intensity as it approached the 4 military planes to chase.
Byron Mitchell continued describing in his report: There were more than 200 witnesses who saw the object flying at low altitude, describing it as solid-metal, without marks or cracks, in one piece, apparently did not generate any sound, but others claim that they heard a slight buzz, was probably silenced by the noise of aircraft to chase” (translated extract to article) …..

It gives us some possibly new information, but am unsure as to the reliability of the source.

Again Larry King showed interest 

Latest Larry king ufo show ( 24th + 27th january 2008 )
Posted by dandare on February 2, 2008

 (as of april 2008…unfortunately these videos are now unavailable….i will endeavor to find them again, but cannot guarantee that i will…. sorry). so on to next post.
At this stage, i thought that i should add a flowchart (reminder=will need to update this; however not sure what format to take, as the information is now large).  

Posted by dandare on February 3, 2008

For those who would like the Stephenville UFO sighting as a flowchart, i have finally done one (not brilliant, and will probably update it); but it gives you bite sized information on the sighting). 


To see the full flowchart, please click on it (opens in another window), and a slightly bigger flowchart will be shown (as a bit is missing to the right). 


The Nuclear Connection Project presents the camp Hood UFO sightings

Posted by dandare on February 8, 2008



I was having a look at the excellent NICAP site (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena), and was reminded of information to past Texas ufo sightings.

In “The Nuclear Connection Project presents The Camp Hood sightings including all the Texas Blue Unknowns” the article starts with an update from september 22nd 2005:

It says

“The evidence for a UFO/Nuclear Connection grows stronger by the day. Official FBI, CIA, Army and Air Force documents establish, beyond a doubt, that UFOs have been seen and reported where uranium was mined and plutonium was manufactured (the Congo, New Mexico, The Oak Ridge, Tennessee, the Hanford Plant at Washington, the Savannah River facility at South Carolina).

 Official reports are on file of UFOs seen where bomb development took place (Los Alamos, Sandia Base) and where nuclear weapons were stored (New Mexico: Los Alamos,Manzano Mountain near Kirtland, NM, and Texas: Killeen Base ant Camp Hood.

This is the second part of that story, the Camp Hood Sightings, which we produced to include all the known cases and provided links to the full report directories and official supporting documents. The matrix for this chronology is based on the portion of the book, “The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects”, by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, where these sightings and the story surrounding them is covered in detail. Where enough information is not available to produce a case directory, the supporting documents are provided as temporary directories” (extract from article).

It then goes on to give descriptions of sightings from november 2nd 1947, until may 25th 1995.

A few examples in this database can be seen below  :

“Aug. 4, 1965; Dallas, TX (BBU)
1:30 a.m. Man in a car saw a red and blue light, thought it came from a police car, then was passed by a huge, orange object flying at ground level. (Vallée Magonia 672)”

“Feb. 19, 1956; Houston, TX (BBU 3977)

6:07 a.m. (CST). Crew of Eastern Airlines Super Constellation saw intense white light, moving 4-5 times the speed of the airplane, evaded by the pilot. (Berliner; FUFOR Index)”

May 25, 1995; Bovina, TX
Cat 9 and 11. 10:30 a.m. Captain and First Officer of America West Airlines Flight 564 reported a large silhouetted cigar-shaped object, pulsating lights along body. An America West B-757 airliner was cruising at 39,000 feet near Bovina, Texas, en route from Tampa, Florida, to Las Vegas, Nevada. When the background clouds pulsed with lightning, they could see the silhouette of a dark, wingless, elongated cigar-like object around the strobing lights. Estimated to be 300-400 feet long. The bursts of speed were computed to be between 1,000 and 1,400 m.p.h” (extracts from article).

This data is interesting, as it proves that sightings in this area have been reported for quite a while…. the closest matches to the Stephenville sighting have been given above .

Ufo sightings from Texas, can also be seen here from 1723 until 2005… the texas sightings are mixed in with other sightings, but it is worth sifting through to look at these too.

At the same site (ufodna.com) there is an article (one among other interesting ones) called “The annual ufo cycle“ , which mentions :

“UFO sightings follow a rather consistent annual cycle, with a spike in January, another in March, then a rapid growth from May to July, and a peak through November, followed by a crash in December. This varies little from year to year as the decades go on” (extract from article)… 

To a certain respect this seems to be true, but to be honest, i might have to go and have a look and check this.

Anyway, to conclude: the Texas area seems to have had more than its fair share of ufo sightings, and the recent Stephenville ufo sighting is testament to that fact.

 Looking back into previous sightings, in the immediate surrounding area, and then the wider area of Texas as well, it can possibly help us build up a picture of  what is going on (any hotspots for instance), among other things…. of course some of the sightings are hoaxes, or IFOs and this must be taken into account as well. 

Secret military installation near Stephenville ufo sighting, Texas

Posted by dandare on February 10, 2008

Erath County is sandwiched between 2 major military airfields (of course there are others of smaller size in the vacinity also); 

  1. To the East is Carswell JRB (Joint Reserve Base)- 65 miles away
  2. To the West is Dyess AFB in Abilene -90 miles away

However, what was not known to me until recently, was that around 10-15 miles from the Stephenville UFO sightings, is a secret government military installation, not to far off state highway 144.

  • The installation is on the east side of Highway 144 between Walnut Springs, TX and Meridian, TX.
  • The whole complex is around 3,000 acres in size….
  • has a high game fence, plus an extra razor wire fence
  • there are 2 private runways; one is 6000ft long
  • gates on each highway entrance= government green gates
  • Trespassing warning signs
  • on one of the airstrips, there is nearby a tubular structure, which seems to go underground-possibly testing stealth wing designs there?

The wikipedia mentions this as:               link here

Local  item  of  interest:  Walnut Springs, 

 Texas,  Mystery  “Airport”

December 31, 2007 notes:

A few miles south of Walnut Springs, behind significant hills on the west side of the site, and dense foliage on the east side, lies what appears to be an abandoned airport. Terrain and foliage, plus relative distance from highway TX-144 on the west side, and highway TX-927 on the east side, prevent unrestricted viewing of the location.

The facility is not marked as abandoned (magenta circle with an “x” centered on the circle) on any VFR sectional, or, any other aerial navigation map, unlike other abandoned or closed airports across the world, and by ICAO convention (International Civil Aviation Organization).

However, online photography does show both “runways” on site (there is a large, main runway of about 6,000 feet in length, and a smaller, slightly fan-shaped surface of about 1,500 feet in length), marked with what appears to be FAA-standard yellow “x” markings, indicating the surfaces are abandoned runways, but are unusable, unsafe, or both.

The physical location is inside a rough triangle that is composed of the cities of Walnut Springs, Morgan, and Meridian. The latitude and longitude is N 32.02536, W -97.67854, respectively.

The mystery airport is not the Diamond Seven Ranch private airstrip, located north-northwest of Morgan.

The site is easily found on all free mapping web sites. Microsoft TerraServer USA and Google Maps have the best photography of the location yet found.

All roads leading to the location are closed with green-painted US Government gates, and “No Trespassing” signs abound. The described signage is true for the entrance from TX-927, and TX-144.

January 1, 2008 Update:

Overnight research and correspondence has provided a potential explanation for this location’s “mystery” airport.

Apparently, the site is a either a former, or still active, testing location for cross-section reflectivity of different types of ground- and aircraft-based radar. The relative proximity of the Ft. Worth, Texas, military/industrial manufacturing base may have a bearing on the facility. The facility is not a runway for aircraft, in the conventional sense.

Several similar locations can be found in California and Florida (extract from article).


There are rumours that it is an underground base; that there may be a possible link with the Montauk project.

SO could this secret government installation have something to do with what happened in the Stephenville ufo sighting… was it part of the incident, was it the incident itself, were they/are they hidding stuff at this location?

It seems there is more to this than meets the eye…..



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Stephenville UFO sighting 2008: looking back + latest updates (part 1 of 4)

Posted by dandare on April 16, 2008

I thought it would be an idea, to post all the information, on the stephenville sighting ( 2008 ), in four large parts… so you can look through them much quicker, all in four parts (otherwise 24 links= a bit bland possibly?)…. i had planned on just adding the links, but thought that i would repost them in full again, for much easier reference ( i hope!).

As i have not properly reported about what has gone on since my last post on the sighting/sightings, i thought it would be good to catch up in my last part ( part 4 ). As links to external sources are not recent, i am afraid that they may not be available now…. please bear this in mind, as they are now relatively old.  

These posts ( as they are relatively large ), will probably take time to load….please be patient. thank you. I have noticed that all Stephenville empire tribune posts: you have to login, and also pay to see the posts… ( i do have the posts archived on computer though for future reference ).   

So i started on january 17th… 


Posted by dandare on January 17, 2008

After i was alerted by Steve at ufospider.com  (thanks for that, as i missed this…. his link to this can be found here , with different videos), i’ve managed to find quite a few articles and videos to this event; it seems to be gathering momentum.

The basic facts, that i have so far found are:

Where: Stephenville, Texas

When : January 8th, 2008

Spotted by : Quite a few witnesses ( i think initially by 30-40, but might be more now, as more have come forward? ) prominent among them – pilot/business owners/county constable.

What: UFO (thats Unidentified Flying Object) – bright lights ( some suggest like strobe lights) – low flying + fast (however, various other descriptions are given too); also some say it was chased by jets.

Officials respond by saying it was possibly a plane ( due to light conditions, made it seem more extra ordinary ); some witnesses suggest a military aircraft ( unknown to the public,possibly ). Also, it seems it has caught the attentions of the  Mutual UFO Network, which plans to go there and find out more..

Below are some ( not all, by any means ) of the articles/posts/videos available… none ( of the videos ) that we know of, have the ufo in question, just their opinions on what they saw. 

Stephenville Empire Tribune “Possible UFO sighting” ( posted january 10th,2008 )    

cbc.ba mantions that “Multiple reports of ufo-like sightings in Texan town” ( 14th january,2008 ). 

nationalledger.com “Video, Texas UFO sighting: What was spotted over Stephenville?” ( posted january 15th,2008 )…. with video link near bottom of article (or see http://video.nbc5i.com/player/?id=205072  ).

SFgate.com reports that “Dozens in Texas Town report seeing UFO” ( posted january 14th,2008 ).

ITN.co.uk for video at “UFO fever sweeps texan town” ( updated january 15th,2008 ) 

KLTV 7 “UFO sighting inErath County, Texas cause speculation, consternation” ( posted 16th january,2008 ) with video link.

Postchronicle.com “Stephenville UFO sightings video: photo reward offered ” ( posted january 16th, 2008 ).

nbcsandiego.com says “Texas town buzzes over Rumoured UFO sightings” ( posted january 15th, 2008 ).

san angelo live mentions “UFO sightings in Stephenville, Texas, keep the city and nation abuzz” (posted 16th january, 2008 with a discussion with MUFON ( with podcast included **** worth listening too ). 

I will update on any further developments…. i believe MUFON will be there this saturday intervewing the witnesses? hopefully we can find out what is going on. 

On 18th january 2008:  texas ufo sighting update  

Following on from yesterday’s blog post here it seems we have, from the news articles/videos ( not extremely reliable, but all i have ):

An initial sighting on the 8th january at 6.15pm; it seems this happened over a period of 2 days? Government/military say commercial planes reflecting light, the cause?

It was moving fast ( a pilot gave an estimated speed of 3000 mph ), so unlikely lanterns, ect.

There were 40+ witnesses

Military deny that it was chased by jets ( as some report seeing? ).

So therefore, it gives us alot of questions, without any real answers yet? I hope MUFON, who arrive on saturday ( will be taking statements from witnesses from 1pm ) will be able to fill in the gaps for us all.


There are different reports of this UFO ( is it shape shifting? )…. the witnesses could be therefore seeing the same thing, but in a different form ( obviously, just speculation here ); or could it be something else?

Could they really be seeing something explained….. or an IFO ( Identified Flying Object? )

Checks on NASA’s ( recent debris ) database site, reveals that no man made space debris was re-entering around the dates mentioned.

Most report seeing a large UFO ( similarities to Guernsey UFO sighting,as in size?, In the channel islands, posssibly? ) See my link to this sighting here and here ).

Larry King live on friday will be interviewing MUFON investigators, and this will be worth watching (i hope).


Just to add… Stephenville empire tribune (archive)

http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/01/11/news/news01.txt ( 11th january )

http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/01/13/news/news01.txt ( 13th january )

http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/01/14/news/news01.txt ( 14th january ) sorry for gap above….unable to resolve?

For more interesting information.

Also man claiming to have seen similar over Lake Travis ( not sure about this.. By MY Fox Kansas city- posted 17th january )….  I would question this photograph, as he says he did not see anything unusual in the sky at the time he took the photo?? this could be absolutely anything, i’m afraid.

Also just seen…. Pilot says he can explain Stephenville UFO sighting ( updated 17th january )… its flares??

The best thing too do here, is to keep an open mind, although we will be inundated by quite alot of mindless rubbish, i shouldn’t wonder.

UPDATE : 18th january,2008
For map of some of the sightings please see link below (tried to be as accurrate as possible).

View Larger Map

ufo online

ON the 19th jan:  Stephenville UFO discussed on Larry King (video from you tube)
Thanks to ghf4 for posting these links to the Larry King show ( they come in 4 parts ), which was aired on january 18th,2008. ( just updated late 19th january, as ghf4’s videos were taken off….thanks to lalasufo ..phew! ).

If you like, and acting as an alternative to the you tube site (if it still has problems showing the videos),see this link : http://www.livevideo.com/media/favorited.aspx?cid=9AC45C3DF3A6418BB0D9509F29A8EAE1

for all videos edited by livevideo.com (including the Larry King live show*((which is only briefly shown)) on the Stephenville ufo, but also other interviews,ect which gives a good insight into what is going on). Other alternative sites (to you tube) for the Larry King Live show will be found.

PART 1 of 4

PART 2 of 4

PART 3 of 4

Part 4 of 4

The only other fairly recent UFO sighting of that size, was in 2007, in the UK: so for interests sake i have put it on here ( apart from the size they are different ).

and also from the same sighting

Plus : Stanton Freidman talks about the 1996 yukon incident….

For those interested, it is below:

Giant UFO in Yukon Territory, 1996 ( an interesting video** )

For later shows please see link https://dandare.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/latest-larry-king-show-24th-27th-january-2008/


20th jan: MUFON visits Dublin, to talk to Stephenville UFO witnesses 

MUFON arrived saturday 18th, 2008 to talk to witnesses of the Stephenville UFO sighting which occurred on january 8th. There are conflicting reports as to how many witnesses there were, from about 50 to 200 witnesses ( i would suspect it was nearer to 50 ), to fill out questionaires and to talk about what they saw to MUFON. The hall at Dublin was full, with about 500 people, and the ever present tv cameras, and journalists.

It seems the UFO sightings, took place from 6.15pm ( january 8th,2008 ) until around 4.30am the next day ( january 9th,2008 ).

There are several good news articles that i would like to draw your attention too;

Star-Telegram.com has a good article “UFO investigators land in Dublin to quiz locals” ( 20th january 2008 ).

It mentions “Before talking to investigators, witnesses filled out forms that included questions about the object’s direction, distance and flying behavior. They were asked to sketch what they saw. Then they sat down to be interviewed by MUFON investigators for about 15 minutes each” (extract from article). It also says that MUFON will take, from a few months, up to a year, before a report will be made available.

From the same media “Maybe it came from the dog star” ( posted 20th january,2008 ); this talks mainly about a photo (taken on a cell phone), on front of the news story (star-telegram), on friday…..and it was a sun dog; 2 scientists say it is not related to the incident. This is in relation to….. “Truck driver Sean Kiel is the center of attention in downtown Dublin on Saturday. He took a photo of a strange object in the sky Jan. 8 on Interstate 20 near Cisco” (extract from article).

cbs11tv.com “Mutual UFO Network comes to Stephenville” ( posted 19th january,2008 ) Short article.

There are a couple of videos from dallas news worth having a look at:

http://www.dallasnews.com/video/index.html?nvid=210042 about MUFON at Dublin

And witness accounts at ….http://www.dallasnews.com/video/dallasnews/dmnphoto/index.html?nvid=210036

The transcripts to the Larry King show on friday 18th january 2008 can be found here .

Any more updates i will relay on UFO Online……. Thanks for visiting.

24th january: Stephenville UFO latest; Air Force:Flights of Fantasy or Chasing a Cause?

 This is the latest on the Stephenville UFO….. I will start on the media links to this first,and then add my thoughts. 

image below is of an F-15 (not F-16 sorry) that is vertical deploying flares during the day

Star-Telegram.com “Military says it had aircraft where UFOs were spotted” (posted 23rd january, 2008). A short article, the main point being: 

“Ten F-16s from the 457th Fighter Squadron were performing training operations between 6 and 8 p.m. on Jan. 8 in the Brownwood military operating area, which includes Erath County.

“”In the interest of public awareness, Air Force Reserve Command Public Affairs realized an error was made regarding the reported training activity of military aircraft,”” said today’s press release from the Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base in Fort Worth” (extract from article).

cbs5.com “Texas UFO Mystery Solved?” (posted 23rd january, 2008 ) …. “Originally, the 301st Fighter Wing at the Naval Air Station Fort Worth Joint Reserve Base said none of its jets were in the area that night” (extract from article).

KVIA.com reports (short article) “Miltitary now says jets on training mission during mysterious lights” (posted 23rd january, 2008); similarar information to Star-Telegram above.

chron.com “Military now says jets in area of reported UFO sightings” (posted 23rd january, 2008, with more information on this article) ; of interest “”This supports our story that there was UFO activity in that area,”” said Kenneth Cherry, the Texas director of the Mutual UFO Network, which took more than 50 reports from locals at a meeting last weekend. “”I find it curious that it took them two weeks to ‘fess up. I think they’re feeling the heat from the publicity”” (extract from article).

Also from chron.com “Military says planes in area of Texas ufo reports (with video) “  (posted 23rd january, 2008). “Allen said that the planes’ training area in the Brownwood Military Operating Area that includes Stephenville’s Erath County does not include the airspace where he saw the object. Also, Jan. 8 was not the only day sightings were reported” (extract from article) and “Some residents aren’t buying it, though, saying the military’s revelation actually bolsters their claims because several reported seeing at least two fighter jets chasing an object” (extract from article).

nbc5i.com “Military offers Reason for UFO reports” (posted 23rd january, 2008 ) also with a video…. it mentions

“”I think it’s a little late … then there is a comment here about an error. The military isn’t supposed to make errors. I think it’s just a standard cover up. That is immediately what I am thinking … some kind of cover up,”” said Hudgeons. “”With the lights going around as quick as they said they were … I just don’t see them being aircraft””.

If the lights were military aircraft, Hudgeons wants to see them again, NBC 5’s Omar Villafranca reported” (extract from article).

And to add this into the melting pot at the end, an interesting article entitled “more UFO sightings reported over texas” (not sure of posting date, by axcessnews.com).

“Meanwhile, WOAI Radio in San Antonio reported that UFO sightings took place that same night over the city and were seen by dozens of witnesses. The Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, reported that accounts were coming in as far away as Corpus Christi, all identifying similar UFO characteristics as the lights seen over Stephenville earlier that night.

MUFON’s Texas chapter website carries eyewitness accounts of UFO sightings taking place the following evening and again on January 10th, reporting similar characteristics of bight lights, no sound and rapid high-speed travel” (extract from article- also warrants analysis by me, and a post soon).

dallasnews.com “Texas UFO mystery solved” (posted 24th january,2008 ) ; I have added a quite long extract from this article as it has some very good points (and brings up an old theory)….

One battle tactic used routinely by F-16s involves the ejection of flares that are intended to confuse heat-seeking missiles. The flares can be ejected several at a time, and could form a pattern of bright lights traveling across the sky.

But such activity would not match other aspects of the descriptions of the Stephenville lights. Witnesses generally described what they saw as silent, apparently changing speeds and passing over populated areas. That does not sound like a flare release, said Jay Miller, an aviation consultant and historian in Fort Worth.

For one thing, any jet that dumps flares would also be trying to get away as fast as possible.

“He’s going to be in full afterburner,” Mr. Miller said, and that’s very loud. But the jets wouldn’t be the only noise associated with flares.

“Flares don’t burn silently. They actually burn quite loudly,” he said.

Flares are also extremely hot and dangerous, and it’s highly unlikely that any drill would involve their use over populated areas, Mr. Miller said”. (extract from article). 

thelede.blogs.nytimes.com “F-16s at scene of UFO sighting in Texas” (posted 24th january, 2008 ).

There are other articles, but many are either very brief, and/or cover the same ground.

 You may well ask, what is going on? and to be honest so do i? 

To start with, what disturbs me, is the fact that the Air Force takes 2 weeks to do a U-turn and then admit that 10 F-16s were in the air; of course, the obvious question to be asked here is, were they in the air around this area (between 6 and 8pm), and if they were, were they chasing these UFOs.

 So basically, is it a cover-up story, to try to knock the stuffing out of the story; problem is, that there may be a flip side to this, and it might (hopefully) highten the story for more answers by the military.

Hudgeons (from MUFON) makes a very valid point, in that, if this was the Air Force, then there should be no problem redoing/recreating the event for all to see (would never happen mind, but i like his thinking/method).

At this point, i ask these questions……

1 Why is a training exercise classified? as they will not go into operational procedures, not even the basics?

2 F-16s do not hover (unless i am wrong in this).

3 F-16s create sound ! and lots of it.

4 F-16s are not 1 mile wide.

Remember, all we are trying to establish here, is whether it is an UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) nothing more at this stage.

Maybe, the media should attempt to contact the F-16 pilots and ask them for a response (unlikely due to national security issues, i should imagine, but worth a try). Ask for a copy of their communications with ground controllers (AWACS). I hope they will generally put the heat up a bit, and apply pressure…. we need answers to our questions?

I’m also waiting for the Air Force, to next say that flares where used (does this sound familiar), see extract from dallasnews.com (Texas ufo mystery solved, in red writing)… this all has very good questions to be asked, if the time arises, especially using them in populated areas.

Also MUFON has had eye witness accounts, from the same time period, either side of the 8th january, in other areas, all with the similar accounts to Stephenville… were their trained F-16s all over the place? I believe MUFON will soon be interviewing these witnesses too, soon.

Will the Air Force hide behind classified information, and National Security, to bluff their way out of this one. Again, i say we need answers to questions? whether we will get them is another matter?

What do you think is going on?   is it a cover-up? is it that they are hiding tested super secret stealth aircraft, with F-16s tailing it, to test the local populations reaction to it? is it an IFO (identified flying object)? Is it a UFO? are you worried that the Air Force does not seem to know where the hell (supposedly) their planes are?

Is the Air Force using flights of fantasy or chasing a cause? 

I would be very interested to hear your views.  

 ufo online

   UPDATE: 25th january 2008 

The 301st Fighter wing website can be found here  .

The Air Force Reserve command link for FOIA can be seen here with email and address to write too. Photos of F-16s can be seen here  and here.


25th january : Stephenville ufo: not just here, but in areas such as San Antonio?

It seems that the UFOs were not just confined to Stephenville, but were seen in San Antonio, Victoria and even at Corpus christi.Walter Andrus Junior, (from MUFON)mentions that on the 8th january, something else was going on at San Antonio…. a UFO was seen at Interstate 10 and Wurzbach road. They reported seeing a cigar shaped UFO, with a multitude of lights.

He then goes on to mention that MUFON, will now talk to these people as well (that is from San Antonio, Victoria and near Corpus Christi). The report of all this, looks like it will not be ready until the end of 2008 now. It does not say what the witnesses say at Victoria or near Corpus Christi?

Not sure of the relevance of this, but thought it wise to mention this on here.


 **** END OF PART ONE ****

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California ‘Droning’ …… T-shirts anyone? oh and a little discussion!

Posted by dandare on April 13, 2008

For last ‘critique’ of Issac/chad/CARET see https://dandare.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/the-ufo-drones-disinformation-hidden-agenda-see-the-evidence/

The headline is to make you aware that TK Davis investigations are now selling t-shirts on the california drones….. anyway, that was really to grab attention to the matter at hand….

Following from my last post, I’m afraid i keep asking these questions and more because i wish to understand! I admit that i believe them to be hoaxes….. so what. I also understand the believers, and that they have their own beliefs… 

But without proper analysis then this cannot go forward, and will just go round, and round in circles (for instance, you wouldn’t buy a house without analysing where you would like to live, the best places for your circumstances, ie facilities,schools for children and so on. Also you would look for crime figures in the area, ie cover all the data; maybe you would just move to an area without knowing about it, and with no data at hand ). Ok i know this is a strange example, but one maybe we should think about…  

Other questions :

Why is Isaac’s website still operational? if this is such sensative information.

If nothing else, and i would say the bear minimum, why have the photos not been sent out for analysis by LMH (sooner would hve been better, as now they are becoming something that many would consider a no-no now).

Why do we not know who the members of the DRT are; anon again…. not even one person? seems to be the theme for this whole episode.

Why is the DRT not comprised of A   belivers   B Hoaxers  C  those in between

Then a balance could have been reached when writing the FAQ’s…. each having their own input, and covering all the bases…. but no it seems like its part of an elite club…. fine we all know you are paying for it, doing your own research and getting your own conclusions, but to be honest you brought it back into the limelight, for everyone to see by yourselves (maybe you could have kept it quiet, but would this have been in your interest) and then you critise those who ask questions you do not like; why is that?

Some other things to dwell on: what was the weather like when the photos were taken? anyone know…

In this day and age, we have to be more critical and question everything not less: what would it say to the media, ect if it was a hoax, and no in-depth analysis had been done….. we would yet again be the laughing stock, and butt of everyone’s jokes/ridicule and so on…

I believe that this is damaging Ufology, the longer it goes on…… when would the interim report be expected…… in 2 years time?  

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I am trying to initiate a response, if only to register that time……. is creating rifts, and is making us entrenched ( iagree, do DRT).  But then it does not seem to concern them, why i have no idea…….

This will be the last post i make on the matter…. until we have anything new to go on….. so see you in a year?





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UFO Update (37)

Posted by dandare on April 12, 2008

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Welcome to UFO Update (37)

We start off with “Shatner Claims to know about life on Mars…. really” ( trekMovie.com, posted 9th april,2008 ). it mentions

“Due to the various tangents, he ended up taking only eight questions, none of which were related to Star Trek. The most interesting part was regarding Shatner’s beliefs on ET and his claim to have inside info” (extract from article).

Next we have, “UFO Spies and the game” ( ufomystic.com, posted 10th april,2008 )… Greg Bishop’s ending statement says  

“Perhaps this skpeticism should be tempered with a careful examination of their statements, and perhaps a few probing questions when these people appear in public. Any ambivalence we feel could close us off from something valuable they might say, wittingly or not” (extract from article). Whats it all about…please click the link above to find out.

At the Morning news “UFO conference goes beyond” ( posted 10th april,2008 ) ; it talks about Nany Talbot and her view on crop circles (also goes into her past, and how she got involved; also about the conference).

The sun has “Robbie’s search for UFOs” ( posted 11th april 2008 )…it says “The singer has teamed up documentary maker Jon Ronson for the BBC Radio show……[.]….Robbie Williams and Jon Ronson’s Journey to the Other Side will be broadcast on Radio 4 on May 6” (extract from article). Also from the BBC here .

ufoinfo.com have a link to “ufo flotillas reach Italy” (not sure when posted but recent) The link is to a pdf file. The actual case occurred on march 4th,2008.

At HometownSource.com we have “UFOs over Dakota County?” ( posted 9th april,2008 ) and click on the link below for more…

bgdailynews.com has “UFO talks to be hosted at planetarium” ( posted 10th april, 2008 ) it says that

“Scott’s presentation attempts to address questions of whether UFOs actually exist, whether all sightings can be explained and what astronomers think” (extract from article).

Ananova.com has “Man targeted by aliens” (unknown posting, but recent); it says  

“A Bosnian man whose home has been hit an incredible five times by meteorites believes he is being targeted by aliens.

Experts at Belgrade University have confirmed that all the rocks Radivoje Lajic has handed over were meteorites” (extract from article).

 ok, a bit of fun here…. whilst searching the internet came across this

ICE LED UFO Undercar Kit Video Compilation (see below)

hdnews.net has “UFOs are real, lecturer claims” (unsure of date, but again recently) it states that

“Hastings is a speaker who says he will use interviews with highly credible former military personnel and declassified government documents obtained via the Freedom of Information Act to prove the existence of UFOs” (extract from article).

In KVIA.com it says that “Future unclear for proposed UFO theme park in Roswell” ( posted 9th april, 2008 ).

At redstarfilms.com there is “The other side of Truth” ( 10th april,2008 )

Kiiitv.com has “UFO spotted over alice” with video ( 8th april, 2008 )




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