Here is the recent Larry King Live video, on the Stephenville UFO incident ( that took place january 2008 ) that was aired on 11th July, 2008.
****As of this moment (19th august2008)this video has been removed/deleted…. if i can find another link, i will add it ***** if any one can find a link for this elsewhere, i would really appreciate it if you could post it below in the comments…
Thanks to ghf10 for placing this on youtube for us too see…..
The video is divided into 4 parts, but could be made unavailable at any time; i will endeavour to find another link to this, if it disappears…but sometimes this is impossible? so please take this on board..thanks.
More serious debate, has been carrying on, after the UFO sighting of january 8th).
There is an excellent article on ufodigest.com entitled “
“In all my years of doing research, I thought the Air Force had shot themselves in the foot several times, particularly with the 1997 “crash test dummies” excuse for Roswell, but I really believe they have outdone themselves with the Stephenville Texas sighting, by not accounting for ten F-16s for two weeks. How much longer will the American public have to put up with the excuses we are being given, when all we want to know is what is actually being seen by credible people who help to pay the salaries of these individuals in authority, that continue to give us lame excuses. It’s time for accountability” (extract from article).
“Some time back, I wrote that there cannot be a massive government conspiracy to keep a lid on knowledge of UFOs because our government cannot keep a secret. I’ll admit to having changed my mind.
While the bulk of the supposed sightings across the globe are probably either false alarms or hoaxes, too many of them have the ring of believability to be false. Too many people with nothing to gain by fabricating a UFO story have reported sightings in good faith. Far too many of these stories describe one or more of the same types of objects – either cigar-shaped or spherical, and either glowing from within or illuminated by banks of colorful lights” (extract from article).
Next i had a recap 29th january in “Stephenville UFO: the facts so far”
F-16 CJ (wildcat)
I thought it would be good, to correlate all the information, that has been collected on this sighting, and pull it all together, and try and see what we have? If there is anything i have missed, please alert me to this, and i’ll ammend the records. (please also see my other posts on this site for more added details).
The main sighting that sparked media interest= January 8th 2008; between 6.15pm + 4.30am (9th january). However, it seems to have also happened over several days, up to the 10th january, i believe.
40 + in Stephenville area (including piolt/business owners/county constable). Later, as events unfold, it seems the UFO was also seen in San Antonio, Victoria + Corpus Christi (also on the 8th january). At San Antonio – cigar shaped ufo with a multitude of lights present (information from MUFON).
UFO – MOST COMMON among varied reports were;
very bright lights (lights similar to strobe lights), low and fast moving, no noise.
some accounts below:
” lights spanned about a mile long, half a mile wide….lights went from corner to corner” and that it’s speed was approx 3000 mph.
red glowing lights then white flashing lights…. dancing around appeared, reappeared. spread out in the sky, formed formation, then took off at high speed; it appeared attached.
Some suggest that ufo was chased by jets (possibly F-16s). One witness saw very bright yellow lights.
Military: No airplanes in the air that night: said ufo was an illusion caused by 2 commercial airplanes.
MUFON get involved; seems like Chicago/O’Hare airport + Pheonix lights – authorities are covering up something? what is it, is the question?
January 18th – MUFON investigators arrive at Dublin to take witness statements/accounts (in detail). Alot of media there to cover the event.
Pilot statement made to media – (Fort worth medical helicopter pilot) suggested it was flares (seems like pre-meditated disinformation to me).
I also made checks on NASA (recent debris) database site – no man made space debris, re-entering on that date/or near that date.
Larry King show – several programmes to this event shown.
Cell phone photo – (seems to be a dog star and unrelated).
Then most significantly, 2 weeks after event, military changes its story; It says it had 10 F-16s from the 457th fighter squad training between 6 and 8pm, in Brownwoods military operating area (which it says includes Erath County).
Witnesses + MUFON says this enhances their story…as some say ufo chased by fighter planes. Many say this U- turn is a cover up?
MUFON to travel to San Antonio area to gather more eye witness accounts.
Recently it has come to light that, the Air Force could have been protecting the Presidential Ranch- edge of restricted zone (clas D air space), 16 miles SE of Stephenville. I do not understand why the local press did not pick up on this earlier? this is significant information…. i for one did not realise it was this close to Stephenville.
Whatever happened at Stephenville, the government are not telling us what the hell is going on? i’m afraid. Unless, of course they take us for being stupid.
For instance, i did a little research on F-16 combat formations…. admittedly the most useful i found was from 1996, but it gave some interesting facts. It mentioned that “the basic combat formation employed by tactical fighters is the four-ship flight. The two-ship element is the basic flight unit….. [.] there is a need for both line abreast and wedge formations” (p22). Goes into great detail, with diagrams of the different formations used. Also it says that “Adding additional four-ships to increase to 8-12 jets has been combat tested with some controversial success”. See here for source.
So basically, this is a rarity, and not often used. SO we can conclude that this is:
not one formation (very unlikely-not totally impossible, but very rare)
Therefore a combination of 2 and 4 jets ….
Unlikely to be all from the same base
Protecting the presidential Ranch??
Did the fighter jets come from further afield?
Are they responding to radar,ect
Were special forces involved
Additional information on military in texas:
TEXAS AIR FORCE BASES
Fort Sam Houston
Red river Army depot
NAS Corpus Christi
NAS JRB Fort Worth
Also Lockhead Martin Aeronautics Company HQ (home of F-16 fighter Falcon + joint strike fighter). & miles west of Fort Worth, Texas.
Brownwood Military Operations Area (training area for fighters).
There are many question and so little answers for now?
This sighting along with the O’Hare airport incident, and the Pheonix lights has got some asking “are these sightings related in any way?” Also they seem to follow a similar pattern as far as the government/military are concerned. Cover stories tried, then hoaxing/disinformation is made to try to calm the incident down at a slightly later date ( to be honest this is so easy, it’s annoying, lol)…. it works?
Also, there are similar accounts of the ufo sighting, but there are also conflicting accounts of the ufo sighting. Why?
Is the military hiding a black op secret plane being tested? if so, why near public? possibly to test our reaction to it, maybe?
Also i say again
1 Why is a training exercise classified? as they will not go into operational procedures, not even the basics? Possibly because near the presidential ranch?
2 F-16s do not hover (unless i am wrong in this).
3 F-16s create sound ! and lots of it.
4 F-16s are not 1 mile wide.
Remember, all we are trying to establish here, is whether it is an UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) nothing more at this stage.
Maybe, the media should attempt to contact the F-16 pilots and ask them for a response (unlikely due to national security issues, i should imagine, but worth a try). Ask for a copy of their communications with ground controllers (AWACS). I hope they will generally put the heat up a bit, and apply pressure…. we need answers to our questions?
I’m also waiting for the Air Force, to next say that flares where used (does this sound familiar), especially using them in populated areas.
Also MUFON has had eye witness accounts, from the same time period, either side of the 8th january, in other areas, all with the similar accounts to Stephenville… were their trained F-16s all over the place? Also, did the training last for longer than january 8th? it would have had too.
Will the Air Force hide behind classified information, and National Security, to bluff their way out of this one. Again, i say we need answers to questions? whether we will get them is another matter?
Will update on any other theories i have…. What do you think?
An interesting article has come to light, and normally, i would just show a link and highlight some of the article; however, i think it warrants the full article here on this post:
UFO theories fly again
Recent ’sightings’ raise questions
By Trish ChoateMonday, January 28, 2008
WASHINGTON — Put the alien theories on hold and get the men in black a cup of coffee. You know how they like it.
Instead of beings from outer space visiting Big Country skies, the Air Force could be secretly working out the kinks in the next U-2 spy plane or B-2 stealth bomber in the skies over the Big Country.
U.S. military pilots might have been at the helm of Unidentified Flying Objects decked out with secret technology, accounting for reports from Erath, Brown and Comanche counties the past two months.
After all, the military possesses experimental technologies the public might not know about until decades after development.
“For national security reasons, of course, they’re disinclined to tell us about it,” Michael Shermer, executive director of the Skeptics Society and editor of Skeptic magazine, said.
Besides Shermer, an author of more than 20 books on secret and stealth technology, a think-tank expert and a former “Skunk Works” chief weighed in.
Among the possibilities: The government is conducting a campaign of disinformation, spreading UFO stories to cover up the truth, which is out there.
Or eyewitnesses surprised by fast-moving spheres and a gigantic “mother ship” simply saw jets from a nearby military base.
That includes the UFO sighting Jan. 8 around Stephenville, Texas, the day the Air Force said it had jets on a training mission in the area.
Either way, Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene, Texas, isn’t involved in black — classified — aircraft programs.
“We strictly deal with B-1s and C-130s here,” 1st Lt. William Powell, Dyess spokesman, said. “If it didn’t come from this base, which it didn’t, then I wouldn’t know what kind of aircraft was flying in that area on that date.”
John Pike, a defense and intelligence expert, said he believes the government has thrown up a smokescreen before, like with Area 51 in Nevada, to discredit witnesses.
“If they get people seeing lights all the time, and they don’t know what it is, one way of making the whole thing seem silly is to have people recall flying saucers,” Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, said. “And that way the whole story just kind of goes away.”
Area 51 has played a role in modern American mythology about everything from secret military technologies to alien spacecraft. Beliefs vary as to the truth about the southern Nevada location.
Back in the 1950s, the Air Force exploited the UFO scenario to divert attention from the U-2 being tested at a secret base in Nevada, said Bill Sweetman, who’s written extensively on stealth and black technology.
The U-2 was the only aircraft that could fly at such a high altitude for as long as it could, Sweetman, editor of Defense Technology International magazine, said.
“Airline pilots who didn’t know that a secret airplane was out there would see this object way up above them, and they would report it as a UFO,” he said.
Those sightings led to “Project Bluebook,” efforts to make people think they’d seen a natural phenomenon or something unexplainable — not a secret airplane, Sweetman said.
He didn’t want to hazard a guess about whether West Texans have spotted secret aircraft, but he was doubtful.
“Why would you fly it near a populated area at all?” he said.
And it’s impossible to speculate whether the Big Country UFOs were a sign of a secret program, said retired Air Force Col. Tom Ehrhardt, a former Pentagon chief of the “Skunk Works” or the Strategy, Concepts and Doctrine Division.
“That particular location for it seems improbable because, usually, we have more secure sites to do that sort of thing in than there,” said Ehrhardt, now of the nonprofit Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington.
Sites such as Area 51, he said.
“But you never want to say this isn’t one of those because I don’t have that knowledge,” Ehrhardt said.
Theories to the contrary, the UFO story hasn’t gone away yet.
“Our initial analysis is that we have at least two very promising pieces of evidence,” Ken Cherry, state director for the nonprofit Mutual UFO Network, said.
Video and still images show spheres in incredible maneuvers at high speed in the Big Country, Cherry said. Others have told MUFON of “a mother ship” a mile long and a half mile wide.
Eyewitnesses are ranchers, farmers, oilfield workers, shop owners, defense workers and others who talk of activity as far back as 30 years ago in the area, he said.
But could fast-moving spheres simply be the afterburners of 10 F-16s?
In an about face, the military said 10 F-16s from the 301st Fighter Wing at Naval Air Station Fort Worth Joint Reserve Base were on a training mission Jan. 8 in an area including Erath County.
Maj. Karl Lewis, a fighter wing spokesman, said it was just a mistake when he first told reporters the base had no planes in the sky that day.
“I did my best to correct it as soon as possible,” Lewis said.
But the story has wings.
Washington regional correspondent Trish Choate (source can be seen here ).
Thanks must go to Steve for suggesting i put this in a seperate post (i agree and thank you for finding the time to suggest this to me).
I like this article, because it asks several interesting questions?
I draw you to “Byron Mitchell, a teacher from a local school in this small farming population and a partner in that volunteer MUFON air managed to interview several witnesses of this latest sighting.
According to Mitchell, 8 10 1500 m. Length and width of approximately 700, was an ovoid shape and had a set of lights that constantly changing intensity as it approached the 4 military planes to chase.
Byron Mitchell continued describing in his report: There were more than 200 witnesses who saw the object flying at low altitude, describing it as solid-metal, without marks or cracks, in one piece, apparently did not generate any sound, but others claim that they heard a slight buzz, was probably silenced by the noise of aircraft to chase” (translated extract to article) …..
It gives us some possibly new information, but am unsure as to the reliability of the source.
Again Larry King showed interest
Latest Larry king ufo show ( 24th + 27th january 2008 )
Posted by dandare on February 2, 2008
(as of april 2008…unfortunately these videos are now unavailable….i will endeavor to find them again, but cannot guarantee that i will…. sorry). so on to next post. At this stage, i thought that i should add a flowchart (reminder=will need to update this; however not sure what format to take, as the information is now large).
“The evidence for a UFO/Nuclear Connection grows stronger by the day. Official FBI, CIA, Army and Air Force documents establish, beyond a doubt, that UFOs have been seen and reported where uranium was mined and plutonium was manufactured (the Congo, New Mexico, The Oak Ridge, Tennessee, the Hanford Plant at Washington, the Savannah River facility at South Carolina).
Official reports are on file of UFOs seen where bomb development took place (Los Alamos, Sandia Base) and where nuclear weapons were stored (New Mexico: Los Alamos,Manzano Mountain near Kirtland, NM, and Texas: Killeen Base ant Camp Hood.
This is the second part of that story, the Camp Hood Sightings, which we produced to include all the known cases and provided links to the full report directories and official supporting documents. The matrix for this chronology is based on the portion of the book, “The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects”, by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, where these sightings and the story surrounding them is covered in detail. Where enough information is not available to produce a case directory, the supporting documents are provided as temporary directories” (extract from article).
It then goes on to give descriptions of sightings from november 2nd 1947, until may 25th 1995.
A few examples in this database can be seen below :
“Aug. 4, 1965; Dallas, TX (BBU)
1:30 a.m. Man in a car saw a red and blue light, thought it came from a police car, then was passed by a huge, orange object flying at ground level. (Vallée Magonia 672)”
“Feb. 19, 1956; Houston, TX (BBU 3977)
6:07 a.m. (CST). Crew of Eastern Airlines Super Constellation saw intense white light, moving 4-5 times the speed of the airplane, evaded by the pilot. (Berliner; FUFOR Index)”
May 25, 1995; Bovina, TX
Cat 9 and 11. 10:30 a.m. Captain and First Officer of America West Airlines Flight 564 reported a large silhouetted cigar-shaped object, pulsating lights along body. An America West B-757 airliner was cruising at 39,000 feet near Bovina, Texas, en route from Tampa, Florida, to Las Vegas, Nevada. When the background clouds pulsed with lightning, they could see the silhouette of a dark, wingless, elongated cigar-like object around the strobing lights. Estimated to be 300-400 feet long. The bursts of speed were computed to be between 1,000 and 1,400 m.p.h” (extracts from article).
This data is interesting, as it proves that sightings in this area have been reported for quite a while…. the closest matches to the Stephenville sighting have been given above .
Ufo sightings from Texas, can also be seen here from 1723 until 2005… the texas sightings are mixed in with other sightings, but it is worth sifting through to look at these too.
At the same site (ufodna.com) there is an article (one among other interesting ones) called “The annual ufo cycle“ , which mentions :
“UFO sightings follow a rather consistent annual cycle, with a spike in January, another in March, then a rapid growth from May to July, and a peak through November, followed by a crash in December. This varies little from year to year as the decades go on” (extract from article)…
To a certain respect this seems to be true, but to be honest, i might have to go and have a look and check this.
Anyway, to conclude: the Texas area seems to have had more than its fair share of ufo sightings, and the recent Stephenville ufo sighting is testament to that fact.
Looking back into previous sightings, in the immediate surrounding area, and then the wider area of Texas as well, it can possibly help us build up a picture of what is going on (any hotspots for instance), among other things…. of course some of the sightings are hoaxes, or IFOs and this must be taken into account as well.
A few miles south of Walnut Springs, behind significant hills on the west side of the site, and dense foliage on the east side, lies what appears to be an abandoned airport. Terrain and foliage, plus relative distance from highway TX-144 on the west side, and highway TX-927 on the east side, prevent unrestricted viewing of the location.
The facility is not marked as abandoned (magenta circle with an “x” centered on the circle) on any VFR sectional, or, any other aerial navigation map, unlike other abandoned or closed airports across the world, and by ICAO convention (International Civil Aviation Organization).
However, online photography does show both “runways” on site (there is a large, main runway of about 6,000 feet in length, and a smaller, slightly fan-shaped surface of about 1,500 feet in length), marked with what appears to be FAA-standard yellow “x” markings, indicating the surfaces are abandoned runways, but are unusable, unsafe, or both.
The physical location is inside a rough triangle that is composed of the cities of Walnut Springs, Morgan, and Meridian. The latitude and longitude is N 32.02536, W -97.67854, respectively.
The mystery airport is not the Diamond Seven Ranch private airstrip, located north-northwest of Morgan.
The site is easily found on all free mapping web sites. Microsoft TerraServer USA and Google Maps have the best photography of the location yet found.
All roads leading to the location are closed with green-painted US Government gates, and “No Trespassing” signs abound. The described signage is true for the entrance from TX-927, and TX-144.
January 1, 2008 Update:
Overnight research and correspondence has provided a potential explanation for this location’s “mystery” airport.
Apparently, the site is a either a former, or still active, testing location for cross-section reflectivity of different types of ground- and aircraft-based radar. The relative proximity of the Ft. Worth, Texas, military/industrial manufacturing base may have a bearing on the facility. The facility is not a runway for aircraft, in the conventional sense.
Several similar locations can be found in California and Florida (extract from article).
There are rumours that it is an underground base; that there may be a possible link with the Montauk project.
SO could this secret government installation have something to do with what happened in the Stephenville ufo sighting… was it part of the incident, was it the incident itself, were they/are they hidding stuff at this location?
It seems there is more to this than meets the eye…..
thanks also to akagoogleronpaulnow for posting this on you tube
All stephenville ufo sighting information can be seen together, by going to any post, and on the right hand side click on topics i write about…from the pull down list, (sorry a bit large) find stephenville ufo sighting 2008 (that will load all posts on stephenville ufo)….. i may however, put all these posts on a permanent page at the top of all posts.
Thanks to ghf4 for posting these links to the Larry King show (they come in 4 parts), which was aired on january 18th,2008. (just updated late 19th january, as ghf4’s videos were taken off….thanks to lalasufo ..phew!).
for all videos edited by livevideo.com (including the Larry King live show*((which is only briefly shown)) on the Stephenville ufo, but also other interviews,ect which gives a good insight into what is going on). Other alternative sites (to you tube) for the Larry King Live show will be found.
PART 1 of 4
PART 2 of 4
PART 3 of 4
PART 4 of 4
The only other fairly recent UFO sighting of that size, was in 2007, in the UK: so for interests sake i have put it on here (apart from the size they are different).
and also from the same sighting
Plus : Stanton Freidman talks about the 1996 yukon incident….
For those interested, it is below:
Giant UFO in Yukon Territory, 1996 (an interesting video**)